Re: DSRM is ....

["Chris" <chrisc@fl.net.au>]

How does the RTM donate 3813 when it is not theirs?


"Trevor Edmonds" <trevor_edmonds@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
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> robson wrote...
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> > > > Well, Trevor?? Have I elaborated enough?
> > >
> > > You have not specified anything specific that DSRM has received
> >
> >
> > I don't need to be more specific because it is all in your newsletters
> > over the past 27 years.
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> Some examples?
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> > > > I meant assistance by Local Governments,
> > >
> > > Can't think of any apart from Bellingen Council aranging the loan for
> the
> > > land we have purchased. We repaid the loan (at comercial interest
rates)
> and
> > > paid the council a fee.
> >
> >
> > Donated Steam Roller? Loan for 3 acres/house?
>
> The roller was going to scrap. We removed it at no cost to council, and
> assisted with the replacement playground equipment. As for the loan, see
my
> comment above.
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> > > > State Governments
> > >
> > > Nothing in my time with DSRM.
> >
> >
> > What about $1 for half a railway! If that ain't a State Government
> > assisting DSRM what is!! and $200,000 to soon fix a road bridge!
>
> A court settlement is hardly a donation. You forgot to mention the cost to
> us from the actions of the State Government, which is far in exess of any
> benefit we obtained.
>
> > > > and Federal Governments,
> > > The army did some earthworks for us in the 80s.
> >
> >
> > and repaired some bridges, and moved some bridge timbers
>
> These repairs have been lost with the State Government cancelling the
lease,
> and letting the line fall into disrepair.
>
> > > > and Government agencies in cash, in kind and by waiver of various
> > > > taxes and charges
> > > None springs to mind, except the Electricity Commission donating
> > > 2408 and 2414.
> >
> >
> > ... and two wagons. What about being granted tax deductibility! Judging
> > by DSRM's yearly donations that is a lot of tax revenue forgoed by a
> > government agency. Who donated 3813? Who donated SHELL 031? Who donated
> > the Simplex and a large number of wagons and wheels from Coffs Harbour
> > Jetty?
>
> We obtained tax deductibility because we met the criteria. The major
> components of 3813 were donated to us by the RTM. The rest of 3813 was
> obtained as part of a swap. You are right about the Simplex etc.
>
> > > > What would you suggest? A national referendum?
> >
> >
> > What?? You said "If you are not a member you do not get a say in how we
> > spend our time and money". We are talking about a public newsgroup where
> > the public is having a say. Lately that is a say about DSRM. Public
> > institutions and governments HAVE assisted DSRM, so like it or not the
> > public IS entitled have a say about DSRM.
>
> If you are suggesting that the 'public' should have a direct influence in
> our policies and priorities, than that requires some sort of structure. Or
> are you suggesting that anyone should be able to walk in and tell us what
to
> do? It there is going to be a structure, the only place that will come
from
> is government. The State Government tried that when they cancelled the
> lease. They promised that this action would get trains running in a year.
> What they actually achieved was a legal mess that has been resolved by
them
> selling us the line etc, allowed the line to deteriorate, and put any
> opening back years.
>
> As I pointed out in my last post, if the agency supplying assistance
wishes
> to influence the beneficiary, then conditions are applied to the
assistance.
> If there are no conditions placed on the assistance, the beneficiary
> determines how the assistance is used. The decision making process in DSRM
> is vested in the Board of Directors (the same as most other
> preservation/community groups). The Board of Directors is answerable to
the
> members.
>
> If you are not happy with this arrangement, I suggest you lobby our
> potential benefactors to ensure that any further assistance they may
provide
> to us meets the terms of your agenda.
>
> Trevor
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