Re: Freightcorp's interstate sell-off blamed on competition fears

[BEE EFF <mcreely@pnc.com.au>]

Steve,

thats what I like to hear, reminds me of better times of baseball bat unionism.

Probably need to see a bit of that sort of thing return,(sick of this idea of
individual workplace agreements- most devisive)make some people start towing
the line(union officials included)

Keep kickin' heads

BEE EFF

Steve Zvillis wrote:

> Tezza <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
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> > "Steve Zvillis" <szvillis@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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> > |
> > | Tezza
> > | > It was the Union constantly shafting the Drivers that caused the
> Drivers
> > | to get disillusioned and lose interest.
> > |
> > | Well whose fault was that??
> >
> > As I just said, it was the Union's fault. It if served it's members
> > interests instead of it's hidden agendas, they'd get more member support.
>
> Unions will only serve their own agenda when they are not getting sufficient
> direction from the members.
>
> > | Union officials, committees, shop stewards,
> > | delegates are voted in by the members. If they do not do what their
> > members
> > | want, they can be "re-educated" at a meeting requested by the members.
> >
> > In the RTBU, the meetings are arranged by the delegates, not the members.
> > Even when resolutions have been passed demanding that meetings be held on
> a
> > regular basis, the delegates ignore those resolutions to make sure that
> they
> > run the Union, not the members.
>
> As I said, delegates (and officials) are ACCOUNTABLE to the members. If they
> refuse to be accountable FIX IT!
> Refuse to let officials on site. Terrorise officials in their city offices.
> Persuade delegates to change their ways ( by extreme physical force if
> necessary!!). They will soon get the message, especially if there is a
> groundswell of discontent. ( Not just a lone discontent).
>
> >
> > | If that doesn't work, the misguided officials can be dumped at an
> > election.
> >
> > Blokes have tried to fight head office over the years and gotten sick of
> > banging their heads against walls. Most local positions go uncontested as
> a
> > result and head office rules. The game is stacked against the members.
>
> Only because members give up the fight. Stop banging heads on walls and
> start banging boots into heads!!!
>
> > | Now if members are too apathetic to either support the candidates who
> WILL
> > | do as members require or are too lazy or gutless to stand for office
> > | themselves, they will get exactly the union they deserve.
> >
> > It's neither, it's as I just pointed out.
>
> As I just said, lay down and get walked on.
>
> > | >Now instead of supporting the Union,
> > | > many say "Fuck the union."
> > |
> > | Well thats really going to help!! Go ahead! Dump the union! As soon as
> > it's
> > | gone your bosses will thank you for allowing them to kick as much crap
> out
> > | of you as they like! Who cares if you object? No-one with the union
> gone.
> > | You can look forward to being treated more and more like dogs. If you
> > don't
> > | like it, what are you going to do? Nothing. Just take even more and more
> > and
> > | more AND more. Complain? Who too?
> >
> > I never send get rid of the Union, I said blokes don't support it because
> it
> > doesn't work for them.
>
> MAKE it work!!!
>
> > | If you don't like it, find another job.
> > | (You might get lucky to find another job that still has a union standing
> > up
> > | for it's members rights!)
> >
> > So because my Union is corrupt I should find another job?
>
> Possibly find another union?? If enough of you are pissed off with the
> R.T.B.U. enquire if another related union might be interested in taking you
> on??
>
> > | Just remember, the cab facilities you enjoy (seats,
> >
> > Uncomfortable, dirty, inappropriate.
>
> At least you can sit down
>
> > | heating,
> >
> > Inappropriate.
>
> At least it exists.
>
> > | noise suppression,
> >
> > What noise suppression?
>
> Can you hear someone speak to you when you get out the cab??
>
> > | etc. etc.), crib facilities (ovens, fridges, lockers, showers, etc.
> etc.),
> >
> > Most inadequate.
>
> Complain louder!
>
> > | pay rates,
> >
> > Getting lower and lower comparatively.
>
> Because unions are losing support and management is getting let off the
> hook.
>
> > | leave provisions, etc. etc.
> >
> > Won back when we had real Unions. The current one has tried selling off
> some
> > off the leave provisions.
>
> Get rid of your current union officials.
>
> > | weren't given to you out of the goodness your employers heart. The union
> > officials you are so keen to
> > | slag off copped a lot of grief and heartache to campaign to get those
> > things for you.
> >
> > No they didn't. All those conditions you mention were won by prior Union
> > officials and have steadily been reduced by the current crop. At all times
> > in this debate I am only referring to the RTBU.
>
> As I said, get rid of your current union officials.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Z.
> >
> >