Re: Freightcorp's interstate sell-off blamed on competition fears

["Tezza" <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au>]

"Steve Zvillis" <szvillis@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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| Tezza
| > It was the Union constantly shafting the Drivers that caused the Drivers
| to get disillusioned and lose interest.
|
| Well whose fault was that??

As I just said, it was the Union's fault. It if served it's members
interests instead of it's hidden agendas, they'd get more member support.


| Union officials, committees, shop stewards,
| delegates are voted in by the members. If they do not do what their
members
| want, they can be "re-educated" at a meeting requested by the members.

In the RTBU, the meetings are arranged by the delegates, not the members.
Even when resolutions have been passed demanding that meetings be held on a
regular basis, the delegates ignore those resolutions to make sure that they
run the Union, not the members.


| If that doesn't work, the misguided officials can be dumped at an
election.

Blokes have tried to fight head office over the years and gotten sick of
banging their heads against walls. Most local positions go uncontested as a
result and head office rules. The game is stacked against the members.


| Now if members are too apathetic to either support the candidates who WILL
| do as members require or are too lazy or gutless to stand for office
| themselves, they will get exactly the union they deserve.

It's neither, it's as I just pointed out.



| >Now instead of supporting the Union,
| > many say "Fuck the union."
|
| Well thats really going to help!! Go ahead! Dump the union! As soon as
it's
| gone your bosses will thank you for allowing them to kick as much crap out
| of you as they like! Who cares if you object? No-one with the union gone.
| You can look forward to being treated more and more like dogs. If you
don't
| like it, what are you going to do? Nothing. Just take even more and more
and
| more AND more. Complain? Who too?

I never send get rid of the Union, I said blokes don't support it because it
doesn't work for them.



| If you don't like it, find another job.
| (You might get lucky to find another job that still has a union standing
up
| for it's members rights!)

So because my Union is corrupt I should find another job?


| Just remember, the cab facilities you enjoy (seats,

Uncomfortable, dirty, inappropriate.


| heating,

Inappropriate.


| noise suppression,

What noise suppression?


| etc. etc.), crib facilities (ovens, fridges, lockers, showers, etc. etc.),

Most inadequate.


| pay rates,

Getting lower and lower comparatively.

| leave provisions, etc. etc.

Won back when we had real Unions. The current one has tried selling off some
off the leave provisions.


| weren't given to you out of the goodness your employers heart. The union
officials you are so keen to
| slag off copped a lot of grief and heartache to campaign to get those
things for you.

No they didn't. All those conditions you mention were won by prior Union
officials and have steadily been reduced by the current crop. At all times
in this debate I am only referring to the RTBU.