Re: DSRM is... (this response is "long")

["Rjaygee" <dartmouthmotel@bigpond.com>]

I believe most rail fans would like to support Dorrigo but it is simply not
possible as nothing has been provided by Dorrigo or its supporters to allay
the suspicion that Dorrigo is a one man band which will never get off the
ground as a museum and not remain an unaccessable private collection.  There
was a lot of support initially when it was possible to run trains on the
branch but that support has evaporated as the branchline became more run
down.  Now with the line in practical terms being unusable, without sizeable
expenditure, we are left with the possibility of a museum.  However, Dorrigo
is not really environmentally friendly to keeping ferrous metal artefacts
out in the open.  Once Dorrigo realised there were going to be problems it
would have been sensible to consider whether it was worthwhile proceeding
with their original plans.  In spite of a lot of evidence to the contrary
Dorrigo doggedly presses on with myopic members trying to defend the
indefensible.  This is what most disturbs most observers who can not obtain
sensible answers.  To many it seems as though Dorrigo is happy to see the
rail line deteriorate.  I believe, if they were true rail fans they could
not have allowed the rail line to deteriorate. Rail preservation in general
would have been better served if they had given in to the opposition.  At
most all they have is a phyric victory with a totally useless rail line and
a fabulous collection too large for the group of fanatics that are members
to ever contemplate getting into exhibitable condition, let alone running
order.
Cheers
Rod Gayford

"Tony Gatt" <baulko@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Steve Zvillis" <szvillis@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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> > Tony Gatt <baulko@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> > > We were having our own discussion, the members invited themselves into
> the
> > > discussion.
> > > We weren't pestering the members, they invited themselves to speak on
> the
> > > issue.
> > > and to date, there speaks have not done a great deal to sway the
opinion
> > of
> > > those originally having the discussion...
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> >
> > As you were having a discussion in a public forum, attacking the
> > organisation of which we are members, with exaggerations, distortions,
> > assumptions and plain untruths, do you seriously expect members to have
> sat
> > back, reading the crap being posted and not respond???
>
> No, they have every right to respond. But to date they have contributed
> nothing to the conversation in respect to the questions being asked. As
> pointed out previously, all the comments from the DSRM spokesperson
(Trevor)
> have been negative towards the opening of either a museum or railway. The
> only positive thing has been about acquisition of stock, and the defece of
> the decisions made.
> Dorrigo does have the right to decide what they will acquire, but
certainly
> those who have an active interest in the preservation of stock can
question
> the motives and decisions can't they?
>
> Dorrigo appears to have money to spare when it comes to an acquisition of
> stock, but none when it comes to completeing the tasks it attempts to
> portray as a musuem or operator. This is the point thats being made by the
> public forum. The public forum that would quite probably pay to see the
> static display or ride the train and contribute to the income of the
> organisation. But until now, no such possibilities exist.
>
> >
> > How about I start a thread attacking the organisation(s) you support (if
> > any) in the same fashion. Can I expect you to ignore it and not rally to
> the
> > defence of "your" organisation?
>
> Go for it! I certainly would rally to its defence and have done so before.
I
> have always been a person to fight for what I believe in, but the belief
> must have an outcome or a goal otherwise its only an argument. Still
> questiions have not been answered. We all hear of the legal action that
was
> brought against Dorrigo, still no-one is told "exactly" why it was brought
> on. If there was an argument to support, then I am sure it would be
> supported.
>
> > If you want to run a defamation campaign on Dorrigo, or any other victim
> of
> > your vitriol, without input from the victims, try privatly emailing your
> > "friends" and keep your tripe out of the public arena.
>
> Defamation, vitriol and victims and tripe.... what are you trying to say?
>
> Defamatory remarks are only defamatory if they are untrue.
> A constructive debate is being held in a public forum. This we agree on.
> Questions are being asked, not all of them are being answered. Your
> aggrovating comments can also be considered tripe. It is it easier for you
> to attack the public forum and hope we will go away? I would have
preferred
> a defence of the questions so that we can all find out whats happening at
> Dorrigo.
>
> If DSRM answered the questions, then there wouldn't be a group of people
who
> are supposedly ill informed. The would be a public forum that has
knowledge,
> and you would more than likely find, a public forum with support. In their
> own words: Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum Limited is a non profit public
> Company, Limited By Guarantee. keyword "public".
>
> Its your choice from here to respond in a civil manner or attack as
normal..
>
> Tony.
>
> >  Regards,
> >  Steve Z.
> >
> >
> >
>
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