Re: Time to wake up Steamrail Board Ban Alcohol On Your Tours

["Tony Gatt" <baulko@tig.com.au>]

There is a time and a place for everything....

Don't get me wrong by what you read in the following, I enjoy a drink at
times as well..

read on..

John Wayman <trecker@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> David,
>
> I agree with Mr Proctor.
>
> Allowing alcohol on fan trips actually makes them more attractive for many
> people.

Alcohol can make anything attractive :P

>
> Why not ignore these people having a quiet drink, as they are helping to
pay
> for the tour to run.

As long as it is a QUIET drink..
>
> Patronage on these tours would be less without alcohol being allowed.

I beg to differ, you will more than likely find that people do not travel
for fear of being harrassed by an intoxicated passenger.

>
> Just because you don't drink alcohol doesn't mean that everyone else
> shouldn't.

And just because you do, doesn't mean that those who don't have to suffer
the uncontrolled behaviour. just have a look at the behaviour as mentioned
on the XPT...

>
> But your comments indicate that tours perhaps should include a non
corridor
> compartment car, nicknamed the wowsers' car, where you can wallow in your
> experience without inflicting your prejudices on others.


> Other occupants of
> this car could also be women with dresses below the knee and no cleavage
> showing. Cameras should only be loaded with 50 ASA slide film, and all
> recording should be done on a reel to reel tape recorder. Video recorders
> would also be forbidden. Men in most cases should also wear a hat and
carry
> their gear in a Gladstone bag.

Now who is moving to the ridiculous??

>
> You obviously yearn for such an experience, but I am glad Steamrail is
> progressive and trying to service all of its customers in the manner they
> require. A long steam trip, especially when running extremely late, can be
a
> taxing ordeal. A can of beer or a glass of wine in good company can help
> turn an otherwise bleak experience into an enjoyable one for people that
way
> inclined.

Yes, but what about those who cannot control themselves.. I know some people
just lose all form of control under the influence.. why should they be the
only ones to have a "good time"?

>
> Alcohol has always been smuggled onto steam trips, but it is much
healthier
> that the practice is recognised, and believe me there is money to be made
in
> catering for these people.

Alcohol has been smuggled into many events.. but you find these people are a
little more cautious and controlled because of their "illegal behaviour"

>
> As at the football etc., there may be a case for wet and dry areas on
train.
> A dry area would probably actually attract the most severe gunzels and
hence
> make the rest of the train even more attractive to the less severe fans.

Great Idea, now we are getting somewhere...


>
> Consumption of alcohol is still an acceptable practice in our society, and
> if by allowing it a tour can operate, be thankful and turn the other
cheek.

Many other things have been acceptable, but views have changed...

>
> Time for another glass of wine,

I will have one if you are offering...

>
> Cheers and bottoms up
> John Wayman
>
>
> PETer and susAN <petanREMOVE@ion.com.au> wrote in message
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> > On Fri, 7 May 1999 21:09:02 +1000, "David Proctor"
> > <daproc@spam_this.umpires.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >David wrote in message <01be9878$4bed6860$0eb337d2@pentium>...
> > >>It is time to wake up Steamrail Board
> > >>For a long time now, a rail tour has just been a occasion for chain
> > >>drinking.
> > >>I now speak for us rail fans who are not drinkers and who can see
people
> > >>walking away from tours with the intention of never coming back with
the
> > >>images of a steam train full of drunk people so I  call for Alcohol
bans
> on
> > >>all Steamrail or any Vintage train for that matter.
> > >>No longer should we have to put up with drunk people walking the
> corridors,
> > >>yelling obscenities throughout the carriage.
> > >>Has anyone thought that these people could be a hazard not only to the
> > >>safety record of Steamrail but the personal safety of those aboard the
> > >>train.
> > >>It has gone on too long and its time it ends.
> > >>It should not be allowed.
> > >>
> > >>Anyone agree?
> > >
> > >No.
> > >
> > >DaveP
> > >
> > >=========
> >
> > David P,
> >
> > I agree with you. After many years of railfan trips in many parts of
> > Australia, I rarely see boozed passengers. I frequently see many
> > people having a relaxing drink of beer or wine or even spirits but
> > normally they behave themselves.These booze drinkers are also usually
> > very good company.
> >
> > I personally have travelled on trips where booze is banned and seen
> > some passengers having a quiet drink of wine. I also have seen the
> > organisers observe this. Since the drinkers were in a quiet group,
> > well mannered and well behaved, nothing was done as they were not
> > offending anyone.
> >
> > If you want to find boozers try the normal services such as
> > Countrylink XPT. The yobbos there have coke bottles with rum added
> > before they board the train.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Peter Cokley
>
>