Re: Time to wake up Steamrail Board Ban Alcohol On Your Tours

["John Wayman" <trecker@bigpond.com>]

David,

I agree with Mr Proctor.

Allowing alcohol on fan trips actually makes them more attractive for many
people.

Why not ignore these people having a quiet drink, as they are helping to pay
for the tour to run.

Patronage on these tours would be less without alcohol being allowed.

Just because you don't drink alcohol doesn't mean that everyone else
shouldn't.

But your comments indicate that tours perhaps should include a non corridor
compartment car, nicknamed the wowsers' car, where you can wallow in your
experience without inflicting your prejudices on others. Other occupants of
this car could also be women with dresses below the knee and no cleavage
showing. Cameras should only be loaded with 50 ASA slide film, and all
recording should be done on a reel to reel tape recorder. Video recorders
would also be forbidden. Men in most cases should also wear a hat and carry
their gear in a Gladstone bag.

You obviously yearn for such an experience, but I am glad Steamrail is
progressive and trying to service all of its customers in the manner they
require. A long steam trip, especially when running extremely late, can be a
taxing ordeal. A can of beer or a glass of wine in good company can help
turn an otherwise bleak experience into an enjoyable one for people that way
inclined.

Alcohol has always been smuggled onto steam trips, but it is much healthier
that the practice is recognised, and believe me there is money to be made in
catering for these people.

As at the football etc., there may be a case for wet and dry areas on train.
A dry area would probably actually attract the most severe gunzels and hence
make the rest of the train even more attractive to the less severe fans.

Consumption of alcohol is still an acceptable practice in our society, and
if by allowing it a tour can operate, be thankful and turn the other cheek,

Time for another glass of wine,

Cheers and bottoms up
John Wayman


PETer and susAN <petanREMOVE@ion.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 May 1999 21:09:02 +1000, "David Proctor"
> <daproc@spam_this.umpires.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >David wrote in message <01be9878$4bed6860$0eb337d2@pentium>...
> >>It is time to wake up Steamrail Board
> >>For a long time now, a rail tour has just been a occasion for chain
> >>drinking.
> >>I now speak for us rail fans who are not drinkers and who can see people
> >>walking away from tours with the intention of never coming back with the
> >>images of a steam train full of drunk people so I  call for Alcohol bans
on
> >>all Steamrail or any Vintage train for that matter.
> >>No longer should we have to put up with drunk people walking the
corridors,
> >>yelling obscenities throughout the carriage.
> >>Has anyone thought that these people could be a hazard not only to the
> >>safety record of Steamrail but the personal safety of those aboard the
> >>train.
> >>It has gone on too long and its time it ends.
> >>It should not be allowed.
> >>
> >>Anyone agree?
> >
> >No.
> >
> >DaveP
> >
> >=========
>
> David P,
>
> I agree with you. After many years of railfan trips in many parts of
> Australia, I rarely see boozed passengers. I frequently see many
> people having a relaxing drink of beer or wine or even spirits but
> normally they behave themselves.These booze drinkers are also usually
> very good company.
>
> I personally have travelled on trips where booze is banned and seen
> some passengers having a quiet drink of wine. I also have seen the
> organisers observe this. Since the drinkers were in a quiet group,
> well mannered and well behaved, nothing was done as they were not
> offending anyone.
>
> If you want to find boozers try the normal services such as
> Countrylink XPT. The yobbos there have coke bottles with rum added
> before they board the train.
>
> Cheers
> Peter Cokley