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Re: [AUS] Radio forum on public transport
Michael wrote in message <8E02D24D8telstraNews@vic.news.telstra.net>...
>14km in 10 minutes. Lets see, that makes your average trip speed 84kph. I
>certainly hope for the sake of you not getting a speeding ticket that
>there is a freeway from your front door to your office/workplace.
>
Called the Western Ring Road - and it's FREE!
>I would love to see an average person ride a bicycle 14km in 20 minutes.
>That is 42kph on *average*. Once again include stop start times, and you
>would have to be going bloody fast.
>
Actually, the bicycle route is somewhat shorter - I can go cross country
where by car _and_ public transport the route is less direct. Most critical
factor is wind speed/direction - I ain't no young, skinny weed and have
picked up a bit of wind resistance over the years...
8X---
>A car will also cost me at least $30 per week in petrol, $1000 per year
>in insurance, (because i am under 25), $500 per year in registration and
>a further $500+ per year in maintenance. That equals a grand total of
>$3560 per year to own a car and take it to/from work every day.
>
Ahah! Fell for it!
Tell me what the car costs in rego and insurance sitting in your garage
then? So you are happy to pay in excess of $2300 (your guesstimate based on
an assumption that you would actually use it _sometime_) or so a year for a
garden ornament??
Unless you choose to travel NOWHERE unless by public transport - which in
Melbourne basically means in a direct line to and from the city...or you
_really_ feel masochistic enough to do the PT shuffle or are near to one of
the few cross-routes (mainly to the shopping centres...)
>The train costs me a grand total of $993.20 per year.
So owning a car AND using PT would cost you circa $3000++ pa??
>And yes, i DO live in MELBOURNE.
>
>Where did you get your figures from?
>
Actual costings - wanna see my Tax records or something??
>
>Greg Sheppard scribbled something with a chicken feather on 13/07/1999 in
><7me7p8$dmr$1@foxhound.dsto.defence.gov.au>:
>
>>To reiterate - you OBVIOUSLY don't live in Melbourne...
>>
>>Personally - and my current situation is not radically different to any
>>other I have had in varied employment locales in over 25 years at work -
>>the following average times apply in or off peak for my daily journey:
>>
>>Car: best 10 min, worst 20 min
>>
>>Bicycle: best 20 min, worst 40 min
>>
>>Bus,Tram: best 1 hour 5 min, worst 3.5 hours
>>
>>for the SAME journey of about 10 -14 km.
>>
>
>I don't understand this... your figures suddenly change and severely
>contradict your figures above.
>
Fairly easy... I _work_ closer to home than to the city.
I _utilise_ the same transport line for _part_ of the work journey.
There is _inevitably_ a 5 - 20 minute wait between transport routes (it was
on one occasion 45 minutes - sitting in the tram waiting for a driver to
arrive!!!). The Met still hasn't grasped the concept of scheduleing such
that you do not arrive at an interchange to see the connecting service
disappearing 500 m down the road...!
Distance varies depending which of several routes - freeway is longer, but
fewer traffic lights, suburbia is shorter, but traffic slower and less
direct, more lights, PT is much more convoluted, and requires changing
routes...
I quote travel times in ideal conditions and in peak conditions - I
_usually_ plan to travel outside peak times (ain't flextime wunnerful?), and
select a route (with escape options) based on current traffic conditions.
Irrespective, it takes _far_ longer by PT - moral is, when late for work, go
by car, if you've got all day, use PT. I actually don't mind PT when I've
time - one of the few chances I get to concentrate on a good book!