Re: [AUS] Radio forum on public transport

[Michael <mk@netstra.com.au>]

14km in 10 minutes. Lets see, that makes your average trip speed 84kph. I
certainly hope for the sake of you not getting a speeding ticket that
there is a freeway from your front door to your office/workplace. 

I would love to see an average person ride a bicycle 14km in 20 minutes.
That is 42kph on *average*. Once again include stop start times, and you
would have to be going bloody fast. 

Train to travel 14km, lets see, it takes me 55 minutes, giving TWO train
services with a 10 minute wait between connecting services. The train is
also going around the very long way, i.e. Broadmeadows to City, then City
to Ivanhoe, including a full circle around the City loop. 

A car driving *direct* (i.e. Pascoe Vale Road, then Bell Street, then
Waiora Road) takes close to 30-40 minutes when there is average traffic
on the roads. 

A car will also cost me at least $30 per week in petrol, $1000 per year
in insurance, (because i am under 25), $500 per year in registration and
a further $500+ per year in maintenance. That equals a grand total of
$3560 per year to own a car and take it to/from work every day. 

The train costs me a grand total of $993.20 per year.

And yes, i DO live in MELBOURNE.

Where did you get your figures from?

Regards
Michael


Greg Sheppard scribbled something with a chicken feather on 13/07/1999 in
<7me7p8$dmr$1@foxhound.dsto.defence.gov.au>: 

>To reiterate - you OBVIOUSLY don't live in Melbourne...
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>Personally - and my current situation is not radically different to any
>other I have had in varied employment locales in over 25 years at work -
>the following average times apply in or off peak for my daily journey:
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>Car: best 10 min, worst 20 min
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>Bicycle: best 20 min, worst 40 min
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>Bus,Tram: best 1 hour 5 min, worst 3.5 hours
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>for the SAME journey of about 10 -14 km.
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I don't understand this... your figures suddenly change and severely
contradict your figures above. 

>Home-city times (same transport line)
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>Car: 20 - 30 min (either freeway OR local roads, doesn't really matter
>much - stuff that where it fits CityLink!!)
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>Bus, tram: 40 - 60 min
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>Bus, train: 30 - 50 min
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>Public transport rates cost a minimum of $4.30/day or $21.30/week - or
>about what it costs in fuel AND parking (if you know where to park in
>the city area - nothing to park at work...)
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>>Let's take a look at this:
>>Working on the sorts of places I've been, it would cost not much more
>>than $1 for the rund trip, by car, to the nearest station each day.
>>From there, you can buy a weekly ticket, and this shouldn't be setting
>>you back much more than $15 a round trip... considering that the round
>>trip from Newcastle to Sydney isn't much more than $40... and I assume
>>you aren't commuting *that* sort of distance each day?
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