Re: Train Cleaning, Was Pass Locos

[ajwright@ozemail.com.au (Ashley Wright)]

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:27:51 +1100, David Johnson
<trainman@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>Ashley Wright wrote:
>
>>   I for the life of me cannot believe how dirty the floors of the
>> suburban trains are, it looks to me like the only cleaning they get is
>> mopping, and then not all that often. I have had been sussing the
>> floors out for some time now, and I cannot even see a drain in them to
>> allow other forms of cleaing, Ie pressure cleaning, which IMO done
>> weekly with appropriate detergent, disenfectant would suffice.
>
>Tangaras have drains in them  They look like a huge screw about 3 inches in
>diameter.

  Dumb question time; How does the drain work??? Looking at it would
indicate it would have to be unscrewed, which if true is again poor
design. (Which is why I didn't think it was the drain). This design
would not IMO lead itself to the type of cleaning I mentioned above,
which if the 'plug' is in place would cause a flood. Unless of course
it is more advanced then it looks!!

>>  the Tangara windows appear to be three seperate layers of glass (it
>> may only be two, but looks like three) and the crap gets in between
>> where it is impossible to clean presumably without removing the
>> windows.
>
>There is a centre layer of plastic with a layer of glass on each side of that.
>Removing the outer layer is easy.  Just run it between Cronulla and Sutherland,
>or Blacktown and Penrith for a day, and you're sure to not have an outer layer by
>the end of it!
>

  It does appear that it is not all that uncommon for the windows to
be smashed, which is what I presume you are elluding to. I would also
gather that the main purpose of the plastic laying in between is to
protect the inner window when the hoods throw shit at the trains and
smash the outer window. Also interesting to note that cityrail appears
to have stopped replacing the 'glass' between the upper and lower deck
windows, but instead of leaving them silver as they have in the past
and have started to paint them black to match the remaining glass.
Although I think it is penny pinching to a degree it dosn't look all
that bad, and is in fact difficult to spot inless you are up close.