Re: Transport ticket system collapses

["Tezza" <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au>]

"Dave Proctor"
| "Tezza"
| > "Dave Proctor"
| > | "Tezza"
| > | > "Dave Proctor"
| > | >
| > | > | You are extrapolating that since some regular users *rarely*
experience
| > | > | faults, that the fact that they do means that the machines are
inherently
| > | > | unreliable and that everyone always experiences faults. This is
not the
| > | > | case.
| > | >
| > | > And is probably why I haven't said that or anything remotely like
it.
| > |
| > | That is what you were implying.
| >
| > You infer incorrectly.
|
| I inferred correctly.

I never said it and I never implied it so you inferred incorrectly.


| > | > | Even if one faulty machione can affect thousands, for these
"thousands" to
| > | > | be *regularly* inconvenienced, then countless machines owuld have
to be out
| > | > | of action on countless occasions.
| > | >
| > | > Who said anything about regularly?
| > |
| > | You were implying that.
| >
| > You infer incorrectly.
|
| I inferred correctly.

I never said it and I never implied it so you inferred incorrectly.



| > | > | You, as someone who does not buy tickets,
| > | > | cannot know if this is the case or not. I (and others who have
posted here),
| > | > | as people who *do* buy tickets, can attest to our own personal
experiences
| > | > | on this matter.
| > | >
| > | > I probably see more machines, passengers or staff than any who have
posted
| > | > on this topic.
| > |
| > | Of course you do, whilst whizzing past at 90 km/h.
| >
| > You obviously have no idea of a Drivers work day. What I said stands.
|
| No it doesn't. I, as someone who pays for tickets, am more qualified to
| comment than you, someone who doesn't.

Only in your fantasies.



| > | > | > He's had problems, his mates have had problems, others on here
have had
| > | > | > problems and hordes of others have had problems.
| > | > |
| > | > | They have *rarely* experienced problems.
| > | >
| > | > But everybody "rarely" experiencing probloms works out to lots of
problems.
| > |
| > | And I have not experienced a problem since i moved back to Sydney, 5
years
| > | ago, meaing (according to your logic) that nobody has experienced a
problem
| > | since then.
| >
| > You infer incorrectly once again. If *everybody* who posted on this
topic
| > had said they didn't have a problem then you would be correct, but as
they
| > didn't, you aren't.
|
| But you are saying that there are continual problems *because* one or two
| are saying that experience _rare_ problems. You can't have it both ways.

I've said nothing about "continual problems". Once again you incorrectly put
words into my mouth.


| > | And if it is rare (once every six months at Berowra, for example) then
only
| > | those using Berowra would be affected, and then, only once every six
months.
| > | So we have 1000 people experiencing a problem once every six months.
That is
| > | reasonable in my book.
| >
| > Only if it only happened in out of the way places, which it doesn't. It
also
| > happens at busy locations including Central and can affect thousands in
one day.
|
| So one, machine playing up at a location which has about 15 machines, as
| well as about 20 BOM's, can affect thousands of people? Don't think so.

You obviously don't get to Central much.


| > | > | Using my logic, we recognise it was a one off (five flights
| > | > | arriving when only two were scheduled, they only had two lots of
staff to
| > | > | unload) and things go on.
| > | > |
| > | > | If things were as bad as you try to claim (and I note that nobody
who
| > | > | actually pays for tickets - so this excludes you, Tezza - is
complaining)
| > | > | then there would be an uproar in the media, and this is not
happening.
| > | >
| > | > It's in the media once or twice a year on a regular basis.
| > |
| > | And we *know* how much sense the media makes.
| >
| > Doesn't detract from the fact that you're wrong again.
|
| Nope - you are in no position to judge whether the machines are reliable o
r
| not. Station staff are, but you are not.

You mean the staff constantly complaining about them? The staff who have to
put up with the passengers complaining about them? The staff who tell me
about it? The staff who'd know a damn sight more about it than you?