Re: Tram Announcements: another Victorian election conspiracy theory

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Christopher_Martin GORDON <cmgord@ecr.mu.oz.au> wrote in message
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> : > No, but on one else has got a better idea to get people to validate
their
> : > tickets.  The CSE just make sure people have valid tickets.
> : > Sydney and Adelaide have conductors, are you saying that you should
get
> : > rid of the person on your trams and relace them with a machine?
>
> : They ISSUE tickets.
>
> So does a machine, replace your conductors and have machines.
> Or will you stop Melbourne having conductors but still have conductors
> in Sydney?  I think Eddie you need to decide weather or not trams
> have conductors and no difference for Melbourne or Sudney.

I don't think ANYBODY has suggested that Melbourne should NOT have
conductors.

> : That is entirely consistent with the Melbourne situation where people
> : clearly - by your own admission - fail to pay fares if they can avoid
> : it. It is no doubt broadly consistent with experiences around the world,
> : which is why systems of ticket validation AND ENFORCEMENT have become so
> : widespread. Fare evasion was also widespread in Melbourne with
> : conductors, and people then had the added rationalisation that if they
> : failed to pay their fare, it was the conductor's fault for not doing his
> : job properly.
>
> Who as admitted they fail to pay their fares?  We are all saying we
> have tickets and paid our fair.  It is validation on trams we are
> talking about here.  (I don't validate everytime, but I do sometimes,
> see previous posts for reasons)

You have said that people have not paid their fares. Nobody has said that
they, themselves, have fare evaded, but several people have said that people
do, in fact, fare evade (you do not need to be a rocket scientist to know
that).

DaveP