Re: Tram Announcements: another Victorian election conspiracy theory

[Eddie Oliver <eoliver@efs.mq.edu.au>]

Christopher_Martin GORDON wrote:

> 
> YES, but what is the point of having trams where you board by the front
> door? 

So what is the point of having buses where you board by the front door?

> Isn't it funny how all the people in Sydney who haven't had trams for almost
> 40 years now know more about the operation of trams with and without
> conductors then the people of Melbourne who catch trams every day.

I wasn't aware we were debating the operation of trams; we were debating
the obstinacy of some Melbourne people about using validators.

The point made 1000 times is that people in Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide
and myriads of other places around the world have no problems with using
validators, automatic barriers etc, yet some (possibly large) subset of
the people of Melbourne want to distinguish themselves from the rest of
the world by claiming it is outrageously difficult or unreasonable.

> I don't give a shit what crap you come up with about Melbourne people being
> lazy, but if Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane still had a large tram network like
> Melbourne and the trams had conductors for years, then replaced with
> validators and driver only trams, they you would get the same high level of
> people not validating, it is not just the people of Melbourne, it is ALL
> people.

So now you are arguing that it is a pseudo-political response to the
absence of conductors, rather than a real issue about the nature of
trams?


> I suggest if the people in Sydney/Brisbane want to know what it is realy
> like they should have spent a year or so catching trams with conductors
> and a year or so with out conductors with automatic ticketing and see
> how different the people using the trams behave.

Again supporting the interpretation above, i.e. that it is not the
validation process which is unreasonable but it is just people making a
protest?