Re: Glenbrook..... What was said?

["Robd" <robd74@hotmail.com>]

Even if the driver was entering a section with the entry signal at stop,
according to the rule book in my state the driver after taking his order(if
Absolute) or stopping and sounding warning device (if Permissive) he is
supposed to proceed at caution, regardless of wether there is a broken rail,
fault, vandalism or a Train parked ahead as if everthing is working
correctly and you come up to a permissive signal, that means that a train is
in the next section. So how could the signal man be in question?
Regards

Rob
Jack <bd107@tsn.cc> wrote in message
y_j34.166$TS5.5696@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net">news:y_j34.166$TS5.5696@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net...
> Hi All
>
> I have read the threads about the accident at Glenbrook, with interest,
and
> from my perspective as a driver, the true cause of the accident will be
> revealed when the conversations between Penrith Box and the Driver of W534
> become known... I feel that it *may* come down to the what was actually
said
> by the signaller at Penrith, and whether the Driver of W534 was warned
that
> WL2 was ahead.... it seems reasonable to me that if you are informed there
> is a train ahead in an automatic area, you proceed past a stick at stop
> lookin very hard for that train that is ahead...
>
> The conversation between the signaller and the driver is very important,
> *if* he was told that the signals had failed and there was no mention of
> another train in the section ahead the last thing the driver would be
lookin
> for would be another train... he would be lookin for broken rails etc...
>
> Another thing to remember is that the signal W534 passsed at stop prior to
> running into WL2, was showing a stop indication, as it should when the
track
> ahead is occupied...
>
> I am ont trying to blame or absolve anyone from blame, but it seems to me
> that communications may have a large role to play in this accident... It
is
> f***ing ridiculous that the  driver of a City Rail train cannot talk to
> drivers of trains of other operators, because of different radio
systems....
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Jack
>
> Queensland beautiful one day perfect
> the next.... And wet the other 363 days
> of the year
>
>