G'day, David & Jan Winter wrote: > BTW ELs and Ns weigh about the same, don't they: 114t I think N's are closer to 125t. Someone with a General Appendix bit of the NSP should be able to tell us. Cheers, CH. -- Craig Haber albatross@harnessnet.com.au http://www.harnessnet.com.au "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys"