Re: Signaller causes SPAD

[signal_spotter@my-deja.com]

Again all you've done is snip bits of my reply and then take them out
of context to form your arguement. I accept constructive critism from
drivers, not whinges. And lastly, I did not develop the signalling
systems in use throughout the world. When I design a layout I have to
follow the standards and principles in use for that system. Your
system. So if you have a gripe about signalling in UK then take it up
with Railtrack. And no I did not design Central or Jubilee lines, but
all you're doing is whinging about it anyway.

regards Ian

In article <8pjvvn$sfn$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  antstig@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8pjf7b$88g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   signal_spotter@my-deja.com wrote:
> > The context I was reffering to when I said "would not cause a
problem"
> > was in relation to the signalling, not the passengers on board. >
>
> Well, silly me. I forgot as a designer you would not be concerned
about
> little old ladies breaking a leg because the train was tripped and
> brought to a sudden halt not to mention the stress caused to the
> drivers.
>
> Where I come from we regard a signal passed at danger as a signal
> passed at danger regardless of whose fault it is.
>
> >And FYI I do talk to
> > drivers and I also design signalling in UK.
>
> I hope you didn't design the signals for the Central or Jubillee
Lines!
> :-)
>
> You may talk to drivers but these posts of yours suggest you may not
> listen.
>
> >It's good to see that
> > drivers are the same the world over. :-P
>
> This sentence just about sums up your attitude. I must ask some signal
> engineer friends of mine what they think of signal designer engineers.
>
> Regards
>
> Frank
> >
> > regards Ian
> > Signal Design Engineer
> >
> > In article <8piifj$3va$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >   antstig@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > Ian wrote:
> > > >Anyway the fact that the signaller threw the stick back in the
face
> > of
> > > >the driver (which he is entitled to do) would not have caused a
> > > >problem.
> > >
> > > This shows just out of touch Ian is with what happens on the
> railways.
> > >
> > > 1. Throwing the stick back in the driver's face will cause a sharp
> > jolt
> > > (train being tripped) which could throw someone old and frail to
the
> > > floor
> > >
> > > 2. Although there are laid down procedures for passing a signal at
> > > danger once you have passed a signal at danger you increase the
> > > likelidhood of something going wrong
> > >
> > > 3. It is not a pleasant experience for the driver who will worry
> that
> > > he will get the blame, especially if he has any doubt as to what
> > > happened
> > >
> > > I can only speak for the UK but a signal operator is *not*
entitled
> to
> > > throw a stick back in a driver's face, unless maybe in a life
> > > threatening emergency.
> > >
> > > If a signal operator requires to take a release (wrong signal
> lowered,
> > > change in destination for train etc.) he must check that all
trains
> in
> > > the affected area are at a standstill in the affected area (as a
> > > release will turn all signals in that area to danger) before he
does
> > so.
> > >
> > > Surely the same rules apply in Australia?
> > >
> > > If a stick is thrown back in the face of the driver then it is the
> > > driver's duty as far as I'm concerned to make out a report to
avoid
> a
> > > cover up which inevitably happens if he doesn't.
> > >
> > > Ian, I suggest you talk to train drivers before you start talkling
> > > about something you don't know anything about. By talking to them
it
> > > might help you in your design of signals.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
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