Re: Signaller causes SPAD

[signal_spotter@my-deja.com]

The context I was reffering to when I said "would not cause a problem"
was in relation to the signalling, not the passengers on board. Of
course people are going to be thrown around when you slam your brakes
on. Actually why would you slam your brakes on causing such grief to
passengers. If a stick is thrown back in a drivers face, the locking is
held by approach locking and should he pass it the locking will be held
by route locking. This is different to a driver passing a signal at
stop due to his error in which case it's all bets off because he's only
saving grace will be the tracks in the overlap. And FYI I do talk to
drivers and I also design signalling in UK. It's good to see that
drivers are the same the world over. :-P

regards Ian
Signal Design Engineer

In article <8piifj$3va$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  antstig@my-deja.com wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> >Anyway the fact that the signaller threw the stick back in the face
of
> >the driver (which he is entitled to do) would not have caused a
> >problem.
>
> This shows just out of touch Ian is with what happens on the railways.
>
> 1. Throwing the stick back in the driver's face will cause a sharp
jolt
> (train being tripped) which could throw someone old and frail to the
> floor
>
> 2. Although there are laid down procedures for passing a signal at
> danger once you have passed a signal at danger you increase the
> likelidhood of something going wrong
>
> 3. It is not a pleasant experience for the driver who will worry that
> he will get the blame, especially if he has any doubt as to what
> happened
>
> I can only speak for the UK but a signal operator is *not* entitled to
> throw a stick back in a driver's face, unless maybe in a life
> threatening emergency.
>
> If a signal operator requires to take a release (wrong signal lowered,
> change in destination for train etc.) he must check that all trains in
> the affected area are at a standstill in the affected area (as a
> release will turn all signals in that area to danger) before he does
so.
>
> Surely the same rules apply in Australia?
>
> If a stick is thrown back in the face of the driver then it is the
> driver's duty as far as I'm concerned to make out a report to avoid a
> cover up which inevitably happens if he doesn't.
>
> Ian, I suggest you talk to train drivers before you start talkling
> about something you don't know anything about. By talking to them it
> might help you in your design of signals.
>
> Regards
>
> Frank
>
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