Re: Signaller causes SPAD

[antstig@my-deja.com]

In article <8pjf7b$88g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  signal_spotter@my-deja.com wrote:
> The context I was reffering to when I said "would not cause a problem"
> was in relation to the signalling, not the passengers on board. >

Well, silly me. I forgot as a designer you would not be concerned about
little old ladies breaking a leg because the train was tripped and
brought to a sudden halt not to mention the stress caused to the
drivers.

Where I come from we regard a signal passed at danger as a signal
passed at danger regardless of whose fault it is.

>And FYI I do talk to
> drivers and I also design signalling in UK.

I hope you didn't design the signals for the Central or Jubillee Lines!
:-)

You may talk to drivers but these posts of yours suggest you may not
listen.

>It's good to see that
> drivers are the same the world over. :-P

This sentence just about sums up your attitude. I must ask some signal
engineer friends of mine what they think of signal designer engineers.

Regards

Frank
>
> regards Ian
> Signal Design Engineer
>
> In article <8piifj$3va$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   antstig@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Ian wrote:
> > >Anyway the fact that the signaller threw the stick back in the face
> of
> > >the driver (which he is entitled to do) would not have caused a
> > >problem.
> >
> > This shows just out of touch Ian is with what happens on the
railways.
> >
> > 1. Throwing the stick back in the driver's face will cause a sharp
> jolt
> > (train being tripped) which could throw someone old and frail to the
> > floor
> >
> > 2. Although there are laid down procedures for passing a signal at
> > danger once you have passed a signal at danger you increase the
> > likelidhood of something going wrong
> >
> > 3. It is not a pleasant experience for the driver who will worry
that
> > he will get the blame, especially if he has any doubt as to what
> > happened
> >
> > I can only speak for the UK but a signal operator is *not* entitled
to
> > throw a stick back in a driver's face, unless maybe in a life
> > threatening emergency.
> >
> > If a signal operator requires to take a release (wrong signal
lowered,
> > change in destination for train etc.) he must check that all trains
in
> > the affected area are at a standstill in the affected area (as a
> > release will turn all signals in that area to danger) before he does
> so.
> >
> > Surely the same rules apply in Australia?
> >
> > If a stick is thrown back in the face of the driver then it is the
> > driver's duty as far as I'm concerned to make out a report to avoid
a
> > cover up which inevitably happens if he doesn't.
> >
> > Ian, I suggest you talk to train drivers before you start talkling
> > about something you don't know anything about. By talking to them it
> > might help you in your design of signals.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Frank
> >
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> >
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