Re: [Melb] Swanston Trams Crash

["John Wayman" <trecker@optusnet.com.au>]

Well said W-class! Most rear ons are caused by a lapse in concentration by a
tram driver. There is usually no excuse for travelling too close to the tram
in front. But the different braking characteristics between Ws and Zs can be
frustrating, and lead to impatience, and an error of judgement.

One of the possible solutions suggested by a Swanston Trams spokesman was to
have all W and all Z routes to overcome this problem.

I used to be a tram driver trainer. You always keep your tram well clear of
any tramway vehicle, big trucks, buses, and trailers. You can hit anything
else.

Cheers
John Wayman

"W-Class" <tram@ding.ding> wrote in message
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> >I can tell you that druiving a car is 100 times less stressful than
> >driving a tram. If a car gets into a situation he can always steer away
> >from it. At the moment I am learing to drive the W class at Malvern,
> >they are a peice of shit and should never have been alowed to survive.
>
>
> Maybe the system would be safer if you were not driving.   If you are
> carying around people when you have an attidude like that, maybe you
> better warn them before they get on.
>
> The "piece of shit" that you mentioned takes skill to drive, but is
> not difficult.
>
> If you are a new driver, then you must know some of the rules
> regarding your job....here is two of them
>
> Rule 81 - Speed
> (a) A Tram must be driven at a safe speed at all times to allow for
> all conditions which may affect normal braking
>
> (b) When going faster than half speed, a tram must be kept at least
> one hundred (100) metres (about three street pole intercals) behind
> the tram in front.
>
> (c) When a tram is slowing down or stoped, the driver of the following
> tram must proceed with caution and be prepared to stop no less than
> one metre from the tram in front
>
> (e) Trams entering or leaving a safery zone must not exceed eight kph.
>
>
>
> The rules are for your and your passengers safely, try to follow the
> rules and see how far you get, rather then blame the tram when
> something goes wrong
>
> Oh, the second rule....
>
>
> Rule 33. General Conduct
> Employees must not behave in any way likely to put public satefy in
> danger or undermine public confidence........
>
>
> I guess this rule refers to employees who post messages in newgroups
> giving an "insider" opinion on how unsafe the trams are....oh I forgot
> to mention a "new" employee by the sounds of things....who has no idea
> what a "safe" tram is anyway because he is to scared to notice
>
>
> >am going to advise the driver involved in the accident to get legal
> >advice so he can sue Swanston trams. They along with the union have
> >alowed these un safe trams to run in the state they are in for a long
> >time.
>
> Sounds to me like you are having trouble coping with the job,and are
> trying to blame others. Only a few weeks into the job and you are
> talking about taking legal action against your employee?  Gee, I can
> see that you are going to last a long time in this job.
>
>
> >murder. Dont ever think about driving trams for a living, its a
> >dangerous occupation now.>
>
> Why? Ask any normal driver if they consider the job "dangerous"?
> Many people on the job have over 15 years service..and are proud of
> where they work...maybe you better leave if you even pass your basic
> training.    Of course I'm assuming you get that far because you
> have such a "dangerous job" a
>
> Loser
>