Re: [NSW] [NSW] [NSW] Great Service City Rail

["Hubert Lam" <hubert@imap4.com>]

I'll hijack it back now

remember the basic disadvantage of "double deck" rollingstock: a limited number of doors per
carriage. Plus there are poles inside the carriage near the doors which makes it a pain sometimes to
manoeuvre yourself out of the carriage, esp in peak times.

now you also have to remember our system is still (directly or indirectly) controlled by the govt.
yours is now completely private i believe (i've only been in Melbourne twice and the only train i've
been on is the Puffing Billy!) our trains run on politics, yours runs on profit maximisation etc etc




"Michael Kurkowski" <mk@netstra.com.au> wrote in message 8F26B0B4EtelstraNews@139.130.239.94">news:8F26B0B4EtelstraNews@139.130.239.94...
> (better late than never)
>
> hubert@imap4.com (Hubert Lam) wrote in
> <390adfd4$0$27499@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>:
>
> >because of two possibilities:
> >
> >1. The Victorian rail system is so perfect they're sitting back laughing
> >at New South Welshmen complain and whinge to CityRail employees that
> >participate in this NG
>
> I won't say perfect, but yes, we are laughing at those who sit and call
> Cityrail employees morons (okay, I admit that I am guilty one one count of
> calling a supposed Cityrail driver "a typical self opinionated cityrail
> employee", but the attitude deserved it), and throw every insult and un-
> constructive criticism under the sun at Cityrail. [begin hijack] Down here
> in Victoria, we have other resources than newsgroups to direct our
> complaints about the system at. Mainly, tbe Bayside/Hillside feedback
> lines, and your local member (of Parliament). You can also join the PTUA
> (www.vicnet.net.au/~ptua) who can point you in the right direction.
>
> Down here, the system is fairly efficient, unless you want to count the
> industrial action of a couple of weeks ago (:
>
> >2. The Victorian rail system is so unacceptable, with service levels
> >"worse" than what we have up north, that they're writing letters to
> >Bayside and Hillside management and in those letters praising what a god
> >job their NSW counterpart (CityRail) is doing and hence couldn't find
> >time and effort to hijack [NSW] threads to [VIC]
>
> Who knows. Up there in Sydney everyone's in a hurry, so they panic when
> their train runs late or is cancelled. As Rod pointed out a few weeks ago,
> down here in Mexico, we are far more relaxed, catch an earlier train and if
> we arrive early, great! Get a coffee, sit down and enjoy (:
>
> Down here, boarding and quitting a train is an orderly experience 85.6% of
> the time. People boarding, wait to the side of the door, and let the
> quitters out. People quitting the train, can do so comfortably. Up north,
> it's sheep against sheep. Watch a farmer load sheep onto a truck, then
> multiply that with a farmer unloading sheep from a truck, there you have
> Sydney commuters.
>
> There ya go, topic hijacked. (:
>
> Regards
>
> Michael