Re: DOO In Sydney?

["Lineman" <sproul@dcsi.NOSPAMnet.au>]

You mean like from an insurance actuary,the figures say its cheaper to pay
out the inevitable claims than it is to employ guards,by quite a long shot.
Don Allitt <nahgfa@zeta.org.au> wrote in message
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> What about statistic's how many accident's per train in say Vic as
compared to per train in
> Syd. Come up with some actual figures and then you have a debate that
should close this
> thread.
> Don.
>
> Matthew Geier wrote:
>
> > In article <7t5v4l$fnd$1@lios.apana.org.au>,
> > C. Dewick <craigd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote:
> > >In <7smb0m$7mo$1@metro.ucc.usyd.edu.au> matthew@mail.usyd.edu.au
(Matthew Geier) writes:
> > >
> > >This still does not address the curved platform issue, or the fact that
> > >because we run 8 car trains here, the driver cannot just use one camera
to
> > >view the whole platform, even on straight platforms in some situations.
> >
> >  Neither can their in Melbourne.... But such platforms are small in
> > number. Wollstencraft already has camera for the guard as the guard cant
> > see along the train either. Its a minior problem.
> >
> > >How can the driver *reliably* view multiple camera inputs on a single
> > >screen at the same time unless the screen is platform-mounted and large
> >
> > Tile the image or switch every 2 seconds. At the worst station, you
> > might need 3 images. So you wait for all 3 to cycle past after closing
> > the doors and pulling away. Besides if some one grabs a door and tries
> > to hold it open the new traction interlock will stop you departing
anyway,
> > and the door open alarm would alert you to watch the screen and see who
did
> > it.
> >
> >  The fact is very few stations are that bad, and platform mounted
monitors
> > on those few could assist.
> >
> > >Perth trains are very short (no longer than 4 cars), so there's a
> > >fundamental problem saying that what Perth does can be directly
translated
> > >to Sydney and it'll work like a charm.
> >
> >  Rubbish. Every one likes to think 'cause we run 8 car DD trains, DOO is
> > impossible. Look at Melbourne, 6 car trains with 3 doors per car. Their
> > drivers have MORE doors to look out for, and they by and large all they
> > got to assist them are rear vision mirrors. The cameras and monitors are
> > only used on the curved problem stations. I would say the double deck
part
> > is not in the equation, its the number of doorways!
> >
> > >The fundamental issues are still being ignored by everyone as though
they
> > >don't exist. 8-)
> > >
> >
> >  Sorry, I dont see the fact that we run 8 car DD trains as any thing
that
> > prevents DOO.  You could argue that Sydney communters a terminaly
stupid,
> > but not that double deck 8 car trains make it impossible.
>