Re: 2 EL's on Patrick's

["Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au>]

Look Les,

I was pointing out the position of on train staff, if you knew anything at
all you would know that GSR. don't employ Drivers and I don't work for them.
However I get a little heated up when people who were employed by (AN) who
have homes and families to keep are exploited by companies who take them on
knowing they can get them to sign anything to get a job rather than end up
on the dole and people like you who sit back passing judgement about the
workers being subsidised by shareholders.

Get real where do you come from???
What are you???
I guess you've already told me that by your reply to my last posting.

If GSR. are half the businessmen they claim to be why did they buy into a
industry that is loosing so much money???

Stiff luck to Serco and its shareholders, they've done no favours to anyone.
Personally I'd like to see them go under, however as always it would be the
workers who loose out in the end.

Serco (GER.) have taken the AWA's to there legal limits, they are a credit
to Peter Rieth and his screw the worker phylosophy.

Bob.


Les Brown <pcc@ocean.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au> wrote in aus.rail:
>
> >When an employee works for 15 hour on their day off and wants payment for
> >it, only to be told we don't pay overtime your on an AWA.
> >
> >I wouldn't call it that!!!
> >
> >To quote your misguided statement "that the workers of GSR are the one's
> >being subsidised by the shareholders at the moment"
> >
> >I'd call that exploitation not subsidisation!!!!
> >
> So quit! Go work for another company. I believe that any worker who is
> exploited, allows it to happen - IN MOST CASES! Unless they are
> chaining you to your locomotive, feeding you bread and water, and have
> threatened to evict your wife and kids from your one-roomed shack by
> the track, you are permitted to terminate your labour with whoever
> employs you. These days you should have no problem finding work with
> other R.O.'s.
>
> Look, Bob, I don't know the full story and I suspect that you aren't
> telling it either.
>
> Did you sign the AWA? Did your union take a look at it and agree with
> it? If you are required to work on an RDO, can you take it again at
> another time in lieu? There are more questions than these which need
> to be anwered before anyone come to any judgement on your supposed
> exploitation. One-line rhetoric only means one-sided opinions.
>
> I mean, why are you blaming the company? They are trying to make a
> profit on something that has never been profitable. Would you buy
> shares in your company if it looses money? It's called GSR, not
> Amazon.com, mate.
>
> And it's still called subsidisation 'cause you and your mates have
> never made enough money to cover your wages.
>
> My advice to you is: Wait until the company makes a profit, as they
> expect it to this financial year, and then press them for better wages
> and conditions. You do not have much of a bargaining chip if the
> company is bleeding money..
>
> Les Brown