Here's another Epping sighting - 15 June just after midday, 48119/4889 hauling four-car K set K69 on the down main at Epping. Let's see what the Victoria-centric respondents in this newsgroup can make of THAT. Incidentally, there's at least one Epping in England - isn't there someone to tell us that they haven't been in Australia for so long that they thought we must be referring to that one? Eddie