Re: Brisbane Light Rail Proposals

[David Penna <djpenna@one.net.au>]

Isn't this supposed to be a rail newsgroup.  I am sure you can push your 
barrel somewhere else.  Maybe you may or maynot have a legit gripe about 
the rail... but don't bring the medical system into it.  I'm sure there's 
another newsgroup where you can air your propaganda.

And no I don't vote Labor either.



Garry R. Ford wrote:
> 
> Scott Ratcliff wrote:
> 
> > Of course nothing will ever happen. Of course they are talking about
> > grand projects -  It's an election year in QLD.
> >
> > Briztram - It will never happen.
> 
> Please remember this is a National/Liberal Government and not a Labor excuse for
> a Government you are talking about. Unlike Labor, the Nationals do deliver on
> their so called grandiose projects, whether it be election or non-election year.
> 
> Railway electrification, new trains, Gold Coast railway (started when Nats in
> government. Labor took over and still not opened by them in six years because of
> mismanagement.  Nats finally opened), new hospitals, tilt train, new railways
> proposed, new power stations (Labor scrapped plans for them and instead wanted to
> buy power at almost twice the generating cost from NSW because NSW now has a
> power surplus. Nats want the link to be able to sell power to NSW, hence the
> redesign and new route that doesn't go through significant national parks, but
> farmland instead.)
> 
> Need I go on.
> 
> Scott, please don't comments about things you don't understand as a southerner.
> When you've been living here 25 years then you might be a Queenslander and can
> comment upon the way government works here.
> 
> Check back through last 85 years of Queensland political history and find one
> large project that Labor actually initiated, commenced, finished and was
> successful with. Apart from the initial "lander" trains and the commencement of
> dieselisation I know of none.
> 
> All their state owned enterprises failed miserably, marketing boards were the
> result of a compromise with the Country Party in the early twenties. (I know
> officially dates from 1935 in Qld but that was because for around ten years it
> was combined with what became Liberals to form UAP).
> 
> Sorry. I did forget one major benefit Labor did give Queensland, free hospitals
> and dental services, only to have Labor (Whitlam) federally, almost destroy the
> world's best health care system by introducing "Medifraud". Because Qld already
> had a better system ours was downgraded and little running costs paid to the
> state in compensation as opposed to massive subsidies in the other states where
> there already wasn't free health care.
> 
> I'd better stop here as I'm well off topic. I just get annoyed when people make
> ill educated rash, uniformed statements.
> 
> If Briztram doesn't go ahead it won't be because of the National/Liberal  State
> Government.
> 
> It will because:
> (a) they lost government (Labor appears against it as its been National Policy
> for several years now);
> (b) the people of Brisbane don't want it;
> (c) the Howard Government refuses to accept it as our major Bi-centennial fund
> project;
> (d) private enterprise is not interested in being involved; or
> (e) there is a massive down-turn in economic performance meaning it can't be
> justified.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Garry