Re: [Melb] Removal of trams effect business

["John Wayman" <trecker@optusnet.com.au>]

I remember when the Z class trams first arrived at Camberwell Depot. One
driver who forgot his training rolled back an hit a car. It was blamed on
the tram, not the incompetent tram driver. A bad workman always blames his
tools!

How many Z, B and A class have had rear ons over the last few months without
Ws to blame it on??

Cheers
John Wayman

"William Pearce" <ben_issacs@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>     Fellow Travellers,
>     My impression is that most tram drivers hate the Ws. Even the fan
> drivers are now getting less keen about them. Their cabs are draughty, all
> the new electronic and communication doohickies now fitted are in awkward
> places and cramp the cab up, the little jump seat is uncomfortable, they
are
> very noisy, not gear noise but wheel crashes and bangs over points and
> crossings, and in a wet and cold  Melbourne winter day, who wants to get
out
> and wrestle with trolley poles with the rain pouring down on one?  It is
of
> interest to note that the ban was put on these cars after one very cold
and
> rainy weekend. Even if they do get these gee-whiz brakes, I'll bet that
they
> will still not last in service for more than a couple of weeks before
> getting banned  again
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill.
> .
> "Michael" <usenet.spam@gunzel.net> wrote in message
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> > David McLoughlin <davemcl@NO***damned***SPAMiprolink.co.nz> wrote in
> > article <3a5c0aa7@news.iprolink.co.nz>:
> >
> > >We are not talking rocket science here. The Ws braked safely for
> > >decades.
> >
> > The rocket science here is the bottom line. Apparently no-one other than
> > the bean counters understand it. I assume that in bean-counter language,
> > it's more expensive to pay one person (the pit man, sorry, pit person
> [PC])
> > for example $40,000 per year, than it is to spend many hundreds of
> > thousands up front in modifying brake systems to do what they could do
> > before.
> >
> > That said, I saw a very quick glimpse of what looked like brand new
> > (or heavily modified) bogies sitting next to and under one W at Preston
> > Workshops about a month and a half ago. [Being in a car, it's a bit hard
> to
> > take too much notice].
> >
> > M.
> >
> > --
> > (To email me just remove ".spam" off my email address).
> >
> > Whip me, Beat me, just don't Windows ME
>
>