Re: [NSW]CCTV Spying on staff

["Rjaygee" <dartmouthmotel@bigpond.com>]

Got nothing to do with State Rail or any other rail organisation.  Having
thought about the incident in question I am even more concerned.  I would
like to know who is actually monitoring the camera's and what is the
statement of duties for their role.  If they are using the camera's to
report staff breaches of discipline then the role of the CCTV system is
being trivialised and could lead to vandalism of the camera's by pissed off
staff. This could lead to a very serious life threatening incident being
missed.  I have my doubts about the neccesity of the system as it appears to
be an expensive knee jerk reaction to imaginary crime beaten up by the
gutter tabloid press.  They only keep pushing what crime exists away out of
the line of sight of the camera's.  This leads for calls for more camera's
such as was the case in George and we end up with a facist Orwellian
society,  By the way, the authorities do not appear to have any problems
mounting fare evasion campaigns, we not the same where crime may be a
problem in specific areas.
Cheers
Rod Gayford

"Bifa" <sweetpea@poboxes.com> wrote in message
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> Rod,
>
> I also would hate to have anything to do with industrial relations in SRA.
> But the Subject of this thread is "Spying on staff" and this incident is
is
> obviously NOT covert or secret and is therefore not spying regardless of
any
> industrial agreement.  What was 'private' about this driver crossing a
> track?  How exactly was their privacy invaded?
>
> If it is a matter of a breach of an IR agreement then call it that.  Don't
> inflame it by using such terms as "Spying" and "Invasion of Privacy"
>
> As for pulling funding from 3801, that would not affect me in the
slightest.
>
> All you can do to me is have the trains delayed, or not stop at the
> scheduled stations or not run at all and then I would be inconvenienced.
>
> Oh dear, I forgot, you do that to me all the time now.
>
> Bifa
>
>
> "Rjaygee" <dartmouthmotel@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> > I would hate to have some of you guys in charge of industrial relations,
> you
> > would have the staff out in no time. If the staff have agreed to cameras
> > being installed under certain conditions and that agreement is abused
then
> > any contra use of the camera's is an invasion of privacy.  In the case
of
> > the non vested train driver how do we know he has been accurately
> > identified.  Frankly this is just some little Hitler sucking up
> managements
> > arse who dobbed him in.  I hope the union takes this issue as far as it
> can.
> > If thats Lillico's attitude to workers then the State Labor government
> > should pull all funding from 3801.
> > Cheers
> > Rod Gayford (also workplace delegate)
> >
> > "Tezza" <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
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> > > "Bifa" <sweetpea@poboxes.com> wrote in message
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> > > | Spying, by definition, is the keeping of a SECRET watch.
> > > |
> > > | Every SRA cctv camera is in a well known location and any SRA
employee
> > who
> > > | doesn't know they are there and where they are is obviously too
stupid
> > to
> > > be
> > > | in charge of a train.
> > > |
> > > | It is not covert.  It is not secret.  It is not an invasion of
> privacy.
> > > And
> > > | it is not spying.  The CCTV cameras are there for Safety and
security.
> > > This
> > > | was obviously an unsafe action by the driver.
> > > |
> > > | It is intersting that no-one in this thread seems to be concerned
> about
> > > the
> > > | safety implications of the driver not working within the safety
rules.
> > >
> > > The ridiculous super vests have not reduced the number of Drivers
> injured
> > or
> > > killed by trains - it's hard to reduce something that's already at
zero.
> > The
> > > morons meanwhile actually got killed in greater numbers after the
> > > introduction of the super vest.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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