Re: Tassie Garret & Penndennis Castle

[Bob <alco@acay.com.au>]

Wrong again!

"chris@enet21.com.au" wrote:

>

I am an Aussie, not a Pom.

> I suspect all these critics are expat poms or ones who are more Birtish than
> British.(do you hold dual citizenship?)

Yes! For the last 20 years of my life. How about you?????

>
> Have you ever volunteered to work with a preserved rail group?

Yes at least 2 well know groups in NSW were offered this engine and they both knocked
it back.

>
> Has Rio ever offered it a major museum in Australia?

This is irrelevant, CSR do what they want, Freightcorp dispose of their locos as they
want and so do Rio Tinto.

>
> I recall that when CSR disposed of it's steam fleet, it placed advertisements in
> all the major papers around Australia calling for expressions of interest form
> suitable groups.

Another assumption based on no facts.

>
> The legal action is the main reason why Rio is getting rid of it. I reckon  North
> Limited would instantly take the matter back to court if it was even shunted on to
> the main line.

Why would we want the Garrett back here? Has any group asked for it? I only here you
asking for it to come back.

>
> And finally I can't see any calls from the UK to return the garret (what's left of
> it) back to Australia or anything else. It seems to me that some people on this
> newsgroup think that the poms can do no wrong, using your logic I am looking
> forward to your crusade to return  Tassie garret.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> Bob wrote:
>
> > Wrong! Pendennis Castle was out of service from 1994 and as they only had 3
> > members in the group caring for it they could not fix it. I should also point
> > out that all the restoration cost had been met by Hamersley prior to then. Why
> > don't you just give it away. You are flogging a dead horse here and adding lots
> > of incorrect statements along the way. I agree with Bill McNiven's comments
> > about armchair steam enthusiasts. Have you ever spent all your spare weekends
> > working on dirty old steam locomotives? If not, talk to those who do, it's no
> > fun, only lots of hard work just to keep people like you happy.
> > Bob
> >
> > "chris@enet21.com.au" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The reason why the Pendennis Castle is not running is the ban imposed on it
> > > by Rio Tinto.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > John Dennis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Whilst I tend to agree with you regarding the little garratt, simply
> > > > seeing it running is much better that seeing it stuffed and mounted in
> > > > the NRM at York.  Or rusting away somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > The South African garratts were purchased for the (rebuilding) Welsh
> > > > Highland Railway, which is a tourist railway.  Not designed to be an
> > > > absolute museum line with high heritage values like our own Puffing
> > > > Billy (which incidentally also has a SA Garratt, a Queensland DH class
> > > > and a Tasmanian V class).
> > > >
> > > > If, in ten years time, the South Africans want these locos back, I
> > > > would probably agree with them.  Especially if they are not operating,
> > > > in need of restoration, and never likely to run again in their current
> > > > home.  Like Pendennis Castle.  Of course, that is almost certainly not
> > > > going to be the case.
> > > >
> > > > JD
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:26:16 +1100, "chris@enet21.com.au"
> > > > <chris@enet21.com.au> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The poms don't worry much about Australian heritage just look what they
> > > > >did to the Tassie garret (conversion to oil burning). And is running
> > > > >South African locos in Wales part of pommy history? It has as much
> > > > >historical significance as the Penndennis running in Australia.
> > > > >
> > > > >http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ml/whr/k1.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >Imagine the outcry  if the same thing  was done to the Pendennis
> > > > >Castle,  maybe conversion to a garret as well?
> > > > >
> > > > >Chris
> > > >
> > > > ==========================================================
> > > > John Dennis                             jdennis@mpx.com.au
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