Re: DOO In Sydney?

["Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au>]

C. Dewick <craigd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote in message
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> In <7tefv6$831$1@otis.netspace.net.au> "Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au>
writes:

<snip>

> I know all that... I have been in Perth and saw how it's done there when I
> was on holiday there in 1997. I rode around the network with some of the
> drivers to get a feel for their system and how the train management
> processes are different to ours here in Sydney. I was particularly
> interested in there on-train video systems and other core differences to
our
> train management methods.

Melbourne did it on the cheap, mirrors and Station CCTV, the union pushed
for on train CCTV but didn't acheive it. Sydney maybe able to fund on train
CCTV, (Thats if the Olympics don't send you broke first)<g>

<snip>
>
> What do you mean by an 'equivalent' solution?

I mean that no matter what the problems maybe, there is a solution out
there, be it in Melbourne/Sydney/Timbuktoo. No problem is insurmountable.

> >Just keep coming up with the excusses as to why it can't be done, its the
> >best way of solving the question. "Why can't it be dine?" To which there
is
> >no answer!!!!
>
> I'm not saying that it can't be done - I know that it can be done. What I
am
> saying is that the approaches everyone has suggested so far will not work
> successfully here without extensive field trials to work out what is the
> best approach. Unless you yourself are a driver with CityRail then you
won't
> fully-appreciate that I have more first-hand knowledge of the issue than
you
> do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig.

Craig,

I agree, no one expects DOO to come in over night, it will take months maybe
a year or two of trials. On the less ethical side of the issue, (money),
when they start offering 22.5% pay increases (Melbournes SPO DOO rate) the
pressure will be on the Locomotive Division to push DOO along. If there is
one thing that makes people accept change its money!!!

I might point out here that I don't believe unionists should trade other
peoples jobs off for money, but if the changes are to come (and it was
management that wanted and pushed DOO here), those DOO-ing (sorry) the work
need to be compenstated.

As for needing to work on Cityrail to appreciate the difficulties, in many
respects I would agree, however any Engineman has the basic knowledge to nut
most problems through, that would apply equaly to a Cityrail Driver coming
to Melbourne, (as we have 3 or 4 started here this year, they had very
little trouble working things out, they have settled in rather well in
fact).

Regards,

Bob.