Re: DOO In Sydney?

["Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au>]

C. Dewick <craigd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote in message
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> In <7t67t6$h6$1@news1.mpx.com.au> "WhaleOilBeefHooked"
<daproc@spambait.umpires.com> writes:
>
> >> This still does not address the curved platform issue, or the fact that
> >> because we run 8 car trains here, the driver cannot just use one camera
to
> >> view the whole platform, even on straight platforms in some situations.
>
> >There is also the little issue of platforms that service multiple lines,
a
> >situation that does not occur in Perth. A combination of very long
trains,
> >curved platforms, people on the platform not boarding that train
obstructing
> >the view.
>
> I didn't think of this, but yes, it's an issue to consider, especially at
> the CBD stations (which is one reason why extra lookouts are employed on
> platform's 16/17 in the morning peak and 18/19 in the afternoon peak at
> Central).
>
> >> How can the driver *reliably* view multiple camera inputs on a single
> >> screen at the same time unless the screen is platform-mounted and large
> >> (which requires the train to pull up at the same spot all the time,
> >> regardless of length), or the in-cab display takes up a very large slab
on
> >> the in-cab space.
>
> >Possibly - maybe all 6 and 8 car trains could pull up next to the
display.
> >But, (just an idea - and extra money would have to be involved) with a 4
car
> >train, couldn't the driver stop, get out of his seat, open the doors,
blow
> >the whistle, close the doors, see that they are all closed, then leave?
If a
> >guard can work the train from the back of a 4 car train, couldn't the
driver
> >do it from the front? It is just a thought, and would encounter some
> >resistance. There would also be increased dwell times at stations.
>
> It would work yes, but there would be delays introduced, and then there is
a
> problem of what happens between the time the driver closes the doors (from
a
> standing position as the guard does now) and then sitting down to actuate
> the traction controls.
>
> The other problem would be physical problems because of the process
involved
> to get out and back into the seat at every station. The current seats have
> to be pushed back a way, and swivelled before someone can stand up. The
> reverse for sitting down again to start the train in motion.
>
> When these small additional delays and the extra physical skeletal
movements
> are summed together, there could be significant problems with maintaining
> running times unless drivers stand up all the time, which is *very* bad
and
> the driving controls are not suited to working from a standing position.
>
> >> Perth trains are very short (no longer than 4 cars), so there's a
> >> fundamental problem saying that what Perth does can be directly
translated
> >> to Sydney and it'll work like a charm.
>
> >Don't they have 6 car trains during the peak on the Northern line? Or is
> >that something I read was proposed?
>
> They might do now. When I visited Perth in 1997 4-car trains were the
> longest I saw on any of their 4 lines.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig.
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Graig its called putting the door controls on the Drivers consul just like
everyone else has done.

Thats why you require cab modes and DOO rear view mirrors and or CCTV
monitors.

As for any situation you have in Sydney there is an equivilent solution in
Melbourne, (If your Sydneycentric mind can't accept that I'm sure London has
solved the problem).
Just keep coming up with the excusses as to why it can't be done, its the
best way of solving the question. "Why can't it be dine?" To which there is
no answer!!!!

Bob.