Re: CityRail Problems 28/5/99

[G.Lambert@unsw.edu.au (Geoff Lambert)]

David Johnson <trainman@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>harry wrote:

>> I was wondering, since when has a train guard got the power to throw people
>> of the train. In the Act it only gives the power to Police as authorised
>> officers. A guard can only open and close the doors which the driver will be
>> doing soon anyway.

>Sigh.  You are of course, correct.  The guard cannot throw someone off the
>train, but when I say in a loud voice "You can either get off the train now, or
>the train will sit here until the police arrive", they usually chose to leave of
>their own accord.  Most passengers will also "encourage" them to leave, as they
>want to go home too.

The rules (which were By-Laws under the Act) used to say:

In the event of any passenger being drunk or disorderly, to the
annoyance of others, the Guard is to use all gentle means to stop the
nuisance; failing which, he must, for the safety and convenience of
all, have the offender.removed from the train at the first Station.
The Guard must obtain the name and address of the offender, and also
of one, at least, of the passengers present at the time; he must also
take care that the offender's luggage is put out of the train before
it proceeds on its journey.

Does "all gentle means" imply 'I say in a loud voice "You can either
get off the train now, or the train will sit here until the police
arrive",' ?

Geoff Lambert