Re: City Rail Security Guards

["John Boxall" <box@ozemail.com.au>]

Perhaps CityRail could learn from QR-Citytrain ... selected night trains are
advertised in the timetable as having security guards on board ... so the
more nervous night traveller can pick a "guardian" train. And the guards
actually walk up and down, talking to people and keeping everyone in check.
Just my 5c

John Boxall
box@ozemail.com.au


Rod Gayford <rjaygee@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
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> Any organisation that invites the public onto its premises is responsible
for the well being
> of those invited. This is solid common law.  If City Rail fails to take
reasonable steps to
> prevent the travelling public from being assaulted then City Rail should
be held liable for
> its negligence.  Call youself a professional, a professional person would
not even think like
> you do.
>
> Cheers
>
> RJG
>
> C. Dewick wrote:
>
> > In <pgxm3.1570$gT.12423@ozemail.com.au> "Ian Larcher"
<metalastic@ozemail.com.au> writes:
> >
> > >Wouldn't it be far better for Cityrail to bite the bullet and get those
> > >other so called guards off their collective $#@%# and patrol the train?
> > >Most can't even be bothered to announce stations let alone do anything
> > >constructive towards improving security. By the way it's interesting to
note
> > >how many Train Guards obviously have English as a second language-
maybe
> > >Chubb has taken a leaf out of Cityrails book? As for PTU demands that
these
> > >jobs be given to redundant staff- good idea. If they were prepared to
have a
> > >go which seems unlikely- one only has to look at the currant std of
service
> > >offered.
> >
> > All this makes sense, but the whole Chubb contract is a political
solution
> > to a nasty political problem. The fact that there was a blanket security
> > contract awarded stifled the opposition's complaints about the
(apparently)
> > inadequate on-train security presence.
> >
> > To be honest, I do not see what we (speaking of CityRAil in general)
should
> > have to provide security guards anyway. It's not our job to keep
passengers
> > safe from other passengers - that's entirely the individual passengers
> > responsibility. All CityRail is required to do is provide a safe passage
> > infrastructure-wise.
> >
> > The reason there are all these very isolated problems on the trains is
> > because of the changing cultures in our society, and has *nothing* at
all to
> > do with the rail transport system. We move people from point to point -
we
> > are *not* responsible for each passenger's personal safety from other
> > passengers.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Craig.
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