I believe they also run long end leading on the Somerton pilot occasionaly, in Vic. Regards Michael >> Interesting!! Can NR's not run long hood forward?? >> >I have seen them running long end first between Cringila and Port Kembla. -- Michael Kurkowski Ph: 0416-044-124 Web: http://www.netstra.com.au/~mk Change is inevitable, except from a payphone.