Re: Red Rattlers be damned!

[david <david@gwmail.nmit.vic.edu.au>]

Do you really know his state of origin ??? It seems you do not - and despite his
opening paragraph mentioneing all the facts as to his so called bias. I would
say he has a very balanced view of the VIC/NSW. Seems some NSW posters are
rather short fused. But I have noticed some sensible discussion as well.

As to the actual topic the term red rattler indded has been used for the older
stock of many systems. Were the Evans cars in QLD  called such ?

Regards,
David Head

Philip Shortus wrote:

> Roger Lloyd <rogerlloyd@optusnet.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> 3a6ccf94$0$16388$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au">news:3a6ccf94$0$16388$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
> > As an expat NSW railfan living in Victoria for the past 28 years, I object
> > to the NSW press and some misguided railfans calling the old single decker
> > electric cars "red rattlers". This is a term unfortunately stolen from
> > Victoria where it was used (quite correctly) to describe the Tait cars on
> > the Melbourne suburban system - believe me, they did rattle and shake!
> They
> > had two sliding doors for each compartment (one each side) and loose
> fitting
> > windows and, like the old P class Sydney trams, really required some form
> of
> > diagonal bracing to stiffen them up. When they started to move, the
> > underframe moved first and the roof followed, if you get what I mean. By
> > comparison, the Sydney Leeds type cars were steel bodied and gave a firm
> and
> > solid ride and DID NOT RATTLE!!! With their high seat backs they were more
> > comfortable than Tangaras and newer stock.
> > Roger Lloyd
> >
> >
> Hey shut your mouth, don't talk about the "red rattlers" like that, typical
> Victorian's always having a whinge about Sydney just because we "take" your
> words, just cause Sydney had better single deck suburbans than in Melbourne!