Re: Red Rattlers be damned!

[david <david@gwmail.nmit.vic.edu.au>]

OOPS the van cars were stainless steel. Qlders know what I mean.  I remmeber them at
Toowong in the early 80's.

David

david wrote:

> Do you really know his state of origin ??? It seems you do not - and despite his
> opening paragraph mentioneing all the facts as to his so called bias. I would
> say he has a very balanced view of the VIC/NSW. Seems some NSW posters are
> rather short fused. But I have noticed some sensible discussion as well.
>
> As to the actual topic the term red rattler indded has been used for the older
> stock of many systems. Were the Evans cars in QLD  called such ?
>
> Regards,
> David Head
>
> Philip Shortus wrote:
>
> > Roger Lloyd <rogerlloyd@optusnet.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> > 3a6ccf94$0$16388$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au">news:3a6ccf94$0$16388$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
> > > As an expat NSW railfan living in Victoria for the past 28 years, I object
> > > to the NSW press and some misguided railfans calling the old single decker
> > > electric cars "red rattlers". This is a term unfortunately stolen from
> > > Victoria where it was used (quite correctly) to describe the Tait cars on
> > > the Melbourne suburban system - believe me, they did rattle and shake!
> > They
> > > had two sliding doors for each compartment (one each side) and loose
> > fitting
> > > windows and, like the old P class Sydney trams, really required some form
> > of
> > > diagonal bracing to stiffen them up. When they started to move, the
> > > underframe moved first and the roof followed, if you get what I mean. By
> > > comparison, the Sydney Leeds type cars were steel bodied and gave a firm
> > and
> > > solid ride and DID NOT RATTLE!!! With their high seat backs they were more
> > > comfortable than Tangaras and newer stock.
> > > Roger Lloyd
> > >
> > >
> > Hey shut your mouth, don't talk about the "red rattlers" like that, typical
> > Victorian's always having a whinge about Sydney just because we "take" your
> > words, just cause Sydney had better single deck suburbans than in Melbourne!