"Andrew Tailby" <atailby@mpx.com.au> wrote in message 39bf3e8e$0$26523$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au">news:39bf3e8e$0$26523$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au... > > > > > > Bzzz. Wrong. K-sets are either 2 or 4 cars > yes the only time i see a 2 car set is on a newcastle shuttle service > andrew And your point is? The fact remains that they do exist. Dave