Re: CityRail Conditions of Travel

["Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>]

Aus Visitor <if-u-know@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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> I was told that the less than $50 rule worked a little differently;

> A Tax receipt does not have to be given when the amount is under $50 UNLESS
> one is requested.  If over $50 then a Tax receipt must ALWAYS be given.

That is just plain wrong and has been give quite a bit of an
airing with toll roads where the provision of a tax reciept can
have a big impact on thruput. It was the ATO that said that.

> In Europe the rail ticket issuing staff just push another
> button on the issuing machine if you ask for a receipt
> and one appears - Could not City Rail do this?

Sure, its obviously possible to implement it like that
but it makes a lot more sense to not bother with tax
invoices when the transaction is worth less than $50


> Rod Speed wrote
>>Chris Downs <cvdowns@ozemail.com.au> wrote

> >> The GST Act requires CityRail to provide a tax invoice within
> >> 28 days of the recipient of the travel requesting a tax invoice
> >
> >Not with those low fares it doesnt.
> >
> >> and CityRail is not required to provide the tax invoice unless the GST
> >> exclusive total (the value) of the ticket is $50+ (or $55+ GST
> inclusive).
> >
> >Which is just what I said in different words.
> >
> >> The question probably revolves more around when CityRail
> >> issues you a ticket are they issuing you a tax invoice as well
> >
> >Not when the fare is those fares below $50 being discussed.
> >
> >> - if the ticket remain the property of CityRail (State Rail) then perhaps
> not.
> >
> >> If you then ask for the ticket once your journey is completed
> >> and they give it to you then it may become your receipt (read
> >> tax invoice in this case) by the fact that its now yours.
> >
> >Irrelevant when no tax invoice is required when the fare is <$50
> >
> >> On a slightly different note I hade a ticket issued at Domestic
> >> after 30/06/00.  It was GST inclusive and stated such but
> >> could not have constituted a tax invoice as it was the older
> >> blue style ticket and did not provide State Rail's ABN etc.
> >
> >Thats just hair splitting.
> >
> >> As the ticket was less than $55 in could not be a tax invoice
> >> but I wonder what would happen if I'd requested a weekly?
> >
> >It'd qualify as a tax invoice even without the ABN in
> >those circumstances and likely the cost of the individual
> >trips would qualify on the <$50 grounds anyway.
> >
> >> Also there are two supplies on such a ticket namely State
> >> Rail and the Airport Link Company (gate pass component).
> >> I assume State rail acts as agent for the ALC component.
> >
> >Completely academic when the fare is <$50
> >
> >> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>> Dave Proctor <daproc@spambait.ozemail.com.au> wrote
> >>>> Aus Visitor <if-u-know@cwcom.net> wrote
> >> >
> >> > >> A quandary,
> >> >
> >> > Dunno, doesnt look like it.
> >> >
> >> > >> I understand that the Conditions of Travel say;
> >> >
> >> > >>     Ticket is the Property of the Railway
> >> > >>     Must be handed in at completion of journey
> >> > >>     Must go through the Barriers -so they get it back
> >> >
> >> > >> BUT
> >> >
> >> > >> The tickets now have printed on them that they are a GST Invoice
> >> > >> and hence I wish to keep it - as evidence of payment of GST.
> >> >
> >> > You dont need a tax invoice for a charge of <$50
> >> >
> >> > Even an entry in your diary is fine.
> >> >
> >> > >> Does this mean that I am now breaking the By Laws
> >> > >> and will be publicly flogged on the Concourse of Central??
> >> >
> >> > Sure, for asking awkward questions tho. The monkeys that
> >> > CityRail 'employs' cant be expected to understand this basic stuff.
> >> >
> >> > Or the clowns who designed the new tickets either.
> >> >
> >> > >> I tried asking the ever helpful ticket clerk for a receipt "It's the
> >> $$%%#$%
> >> > >> Ticket - we don't issue $%#^%$ receipts" was the friendly reply!!!
> >> >
> >> > >> So is a Ticket an Invoice or is it a ticket?
> >> >
> >> > Both.
> >> >
> >> > > The ticket is a tax invoice, and must be returned to the passenger on
> >> request.
> >> >
> >> > Thats wrong because of the <$50 rule.
> >> >
> >> > > Commonwealth law (the myriad of laws that fall under
> >> > > the new tax laws) overrides state laws on this matter.
> >> >
> >> > Fraid not.
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