Re: Newspaper "beat ups" - and its not the Terrorgraph!! (was:News about fire on train near Linden Blue Mountains)

["Chris Downs" <cvdowns@ozemail.com.au>]

Dave's quite right from what I saw.  No attempt was made on the lead door of
the 3rd car, north side, to use the external EDR.  The police officer called
out saying that we needed to use the internal release.  They either didn't
hear or understand the reply that that was not possible.

A CityRail security guard arrived in the vestibule and I don't know whether
they reefed open the cabinet door in the vestibule or used a key but the
external doors were then released.

The external EDRs are rivetted shut.  Would a police officer carry anything
the prise it open with?

On the issue of locked doors it's a damned if you do damned if you don't
situation.  In this situation locked doors was absolutely correct.  We were
not at any risk from the fire or smoke in the rear two cars.  Arguably we
should have stayed in the two cars the whole time but as others have
mentioned the police took the worst case scenario approach - they have no
choice.  Non-specialist police don't have the luxury of time for considered
risk analysis.  They also have insufficient knowledge of railways I would
imagine in most cases to know what was obvious to the train crew and myself
but perhaps not many others.

Chris

Dave Proctor <daproc@spambait.ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:KFMf5.151682$t91.1228382@news4.giganews.com...
> "Matthew Geier" <matthew@mail.usyd.edu.au> wrote in message
> news:8lo3s2$ji9$1@spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au...
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> >  Having no emerency unlock at all is bad, but it can't be easy either. I
> > agree with no inside emergency release, but there should be clearly
marked
> > external releases for emergency services personal to use.
>
> External releases are fitted, the cops did not use them.
>
> Dave
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