Re: [SA] More people using public transport

["Arthur Marsh" <arthur.marsh@cg.dircsa.org.au>]

Having seen how quickly a train can run express from Noarlunga Centre to
Adelaide or Blackwood to Adelaide (15 and a half minutes in the latter
case), and having suffered the all-stops service Blackwood to Adelaide then
Adelaide to Gawler Centre and return 5 days per week, I think that a better
coordinated express-plus-all-stops service is the way to go.

Arthur.

"Taliesin Walker" <taliesin@nospam.chariot.net.au> wrote in message
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> Eddie Oliver <eoliver@efs.mq.edu.au> wrote in message
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> > Taliesin Walker wrote:
> >
> > > Also, if TransAdelaide would give up on running trains stopping
> Oaklands,
> > > Brighten then all stations to Norlunga Centre along with trains
stopping
> all
> > > stations to Brighton an replace them with trains stopping all stations
> > > (except perhaps Mile End) we could have 15 minute daytime frequencies
on
> the
> > > Norlunga line. After all, I would prefer to wait 15 minutes for a
train
> at
> > > Norlunga and spend an extra 15 minutes on the train than spend half an
> hour
> > > waiting and get to the city 15 minutes quicker.
> >
> > Of course your simple solution would be to get there close to scheduled
> > departure time, thereby using your time for purposes than fruitless
> > waiting, and then enjoy the 15 minutes quicker express journey. Why on
> > earth would you choose to spend half an hour waiting?
> >
> > Trains stopping all stations are a GREAT deterrent to most passengers
> > for long journeys - a fact which Melbourne and Brisbane rail systems
> > seem only now to be learning. All stations to Frankston, Belgrave or
> > Caboolture may be just fractionally worse than all stations to Noarlunga
> > Centre, but they are all tarred with the same brush.
> >
> > If you want to maximise patronage, provide services which are perceived
> > to be attractive - and long all stations journeys are NOT perceived to
> > be attractive, even if they are slightly more frequent.
> >
> > Eddie Oliver
>
> Maybe, but I've always thaught that service frequency (or the lack
thereof)
> is a greater problem for Adelaide's public transport system than transit
> time. Ideally we could have 15 minute frequency without getting rid of off
> peak express services. Unfortunately, I doubt that TransAdelaide will
> attract too many car drivers with these interpeak express services even if
> the train is quicker. I've always thaught the a sign of a bad public
> transport system is  when you find yourself planning your day based on a
PT
> time table. To me, 15 minute frequencies would aliviate these problems to
> some extent. I doubt that to many car owners in the southern suburbs would
> use a train interpeak to get to the city. We can keep the exepress
services
> on peak.
>
> Tali
>
>