It was a contact card (guess I should have mentioned that important fact.) -- Eric www.erk.au.com I am looking for links to and from my website. If you are interested, email me. Hubert Lam wrote in message <854jn5$3f5$1@news1.mpx.com.au>... >Was the smartcard a contact smartcard (i.e. touch on machine and "beep") or >do you have to insert it somewhere? > >> > >