Re: Inaugural IP locos

["m,hardacre" <hardacre@acay.com.au>]

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Dear Brett,

I had to check my message again to see if I had mistakenly stated that both
the 46's on the inaugual IP were coupled No.1 ends together.  My message
clearly states that all locos were No.2 end leading so that the bufferless
end of the 46's (No.1 end) on all units would be against the IP cars. (No
doubt to facilitate the swapping of locos if there is a failure).

The stand-by unit in Central on that day was 4608 which also had it's
buffers removed from the No.1 end.  It, naturally, was also facing No.2 end
leading out of Central.

The two trains (No.1 -  the inaugual and No.3 - the press train) were
combined at Pt. Pirie into one train and this was hauled by CL1+GM25+GM47.
The press train was hauled into Pt. Pirie from Broken Hill by 601+864.

Regards,

Mark.


Regards,

Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Fitzpatrick <spinner@mpx.com.au>
To: Aus loco discussion mailing list <Ausloco@listbot.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:54
Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos


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>4601, 4602, 4603 & 4604 being bufferless on the No 1 end.
>
>I remember that in late 1973, my then next door neighbour, Charley Morris
>(Delec driver) took me (10 years old) on a Glenlee Coalie run.  We started
>out at Delec and were driven to Rozelle to relieve the crew on 4601 + 4602
>empty coalie to Glenlee.  Very interesting trip to Glenlee, heightened by
>seeing 3801 on an up pass held at the stick whilst we went onto the Glenlee
>Branch.  Another highlight was crossing two up coalies and being shown how
>to switch the marker lights on alternate sides as a form of waving to each
>one, and having it answered as well as being shown how to drive a 46 Class,
>special instructions like "use no1 notch for a few seconds before going
>through the other notches so that you don't make tha guard fall off/break
>the couplings on the guards van" etc.
>
>At Glenlee, we must have loaded our train, and waited for the next one in,
>hauled by 4603 + 4604.  Before departure, we had lunch in what must have
>been a crib room, and talked to the crew off '03 + '04 who said in answer
to
>my eager questions that 3801 went past them at a fast speed.  The two crews
>took me out to the two sets of 46 Class and explained that these four were
>special: the buffers were removed from the No 1 ends, and both pairs were
>coupled No 1 ends together.  Charley Morris said at the time that the
>buffers were removed for Indian Pacific working so that they wouldn't
buffer
>lock with the Stainless Steel Cars.
>
>I posted this memory because it seems unusual that on the inaugural IP +
>extra that both pairs of units would be coupled No 1 ends together.
>
>Brett Fitzpatrick.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: m,hardacre <hardacre@acay.com.au>
>To: Aus loco discussion mailing list <Ausloco@listbot.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos
>
>
>> Aus loco discussion mailing list
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>> I can help you with the 46 class.  According to my records, the inaugural
>IP
>> (No.1) was hauled by 4601 + 4602 (both No.2 end leading due to the
removal
>> of their buffers from the No. 1 end).  The following 'Press Special'
>(No.3)
>> was worked by 4603 + 4604 (again both No.2 end leading for the same
reason
>> as mentioned above).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Martin <semartin@idx.com.au>
>> To: Ausloco@listbot.com <Ausloco@listbot.com>
>> Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:10
>> Subject: Inaugural IP locos
>>
>>
>> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
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>> >Can anyone assist me with a query on the loco's on the inaugural IP
>> >30-odd years ago. I know 2 x 46 class did Sydney - Lithgow, but don't
>> >know which ones. I know 2 x 421's did Lithgow - B.H., being 42106 and
one
>> >unidentified classmate. From there 604/603 took over the B.H. Pt Augusta
>> >leg, then CL1 to Kalgoorlie , then L260 and another L into Perth. I am
>> >keen to fill the gap in my knowledge of this momentous train journey.
>> >
>> >Scott
>> >
>> >Early to rise, Early to bed,
>> >Makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead
>> >
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