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Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos
From: "Brett Fitzpatrick" <spinner@mpx.com.au>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 00:02:21 +1100
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Mark,

Sorry for that.  I didn't read it properly.

Thanks for the memory trigger though!!!


Cheers

Brett

----- Original Message -----
From: m,hardacre <hardacre@acay.com.au>
To: Aus loco discussion mailing list <Ausloco@listbot.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos


> Aus loco discussion mailing list
>
> Dear Brett,
>
> I had to check my message again to see if I had mistakenly stated that
both
> the 46's on the inaugual IP were coupled No.1 ends together.  My message
> clearly states that all locos were No.2 end leading so that the bufferless
> end of the 46's (No.1 end) on all units would be against the IP cars. (No
> doubt to facilitate the swapping of locos if there is a failure).
>
> The stand-by unit in Central on that day was 4608 which also had it's
> buffers removed from the No.1 end.  It, naturally, was also facing No.2
end
> leading out of Central.
>
> The two trains (No.1 -  the inaugual and No.3 - the press train) were
> combined at Pt. Pirie into one train and this was hauled by CL1+GM25+GM47.
> The press train was hauled into Pt. Pirie from Broken Hill by 601+864.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Fitzpatrick <spinner@mpx.com.au>
> To: Aus loco discussion mailing list <Ausloco@listbot.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:54
> Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos
>
>
> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
> >
> >4601, 4602, 4603 & 4604 being bufferless on the No 1 end.
> >
> >I remember that in late 1973, my then next door neighbour, Charley Morris
> >(Delec driver) took me (10 years old) on a Glenlee Coalie run.  We
started
> >out at Delec and were driven to Rozelle to relieve the crew on 4601 +
4602
> >empty coalie to Glenlee.  Very interesting trip to Glenlee, heightened by
> >seeing 3801 on an up pass held at the stick whilst we went onto the
Glenlee
> >Branch.  Another highlight was crossing two up coalies and being shown
how
> >to switch the marker lights on alternate sides as a form of waving to
each
> >one, and having it answered as well as being shown how to drive a 46
Class,
> >special instructions like "use no1 notch for a few seconds before going
> >through the other notches so that you don't make tha guard fall off/break
> >the couplings on the guards van" etc.
> >
> >At Glenlee, we must have loaded our train, and waited for the next one
in,
> >hauled by 4603 + 4604.  Before departure, we had lunch in what must have
> >been a crib room, and talked to the crew off '03 + '04 who said in answer
> to
> >my eager questions that 3801 went past them at a fast speed.  The two
crews
> >took me out to the two sets of 46 Class and explained that these four
were
> >special: the buffers were removed from the No 1 ends, and both pairs were
> >coupled No 1 ends together.  Charley Morris said at the time that the
> >buffers were removed for Indian Pacific working so that they wouldn't
> buffer
> >lock with the Stainless Steel Cars.
> >
> >I posted this memory because it seems unusual that on the inaugural IP +
> >extra that both pairs of units would be coupled No 1 ends together.
> >
> >Brett Fitzpatrick.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: m,hardacre <hardacre@acay.com.au>
> >To: Aus loco discussion mailing list <Ausloco@listbot.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: Inaugural IP locos
> >
> >
> >> Aus loco discussion mailing list
> >>
> >> I can help you with the 46 class.  According to my records, the
inaugural
> >IP
> >> (No.1) was hauled by 4601 + 4602 (both No.2 end leading due to the
> removal
> >> of their buffers from the No. 1 end).  The following 'Press Special'
> >(No.3)
> >> was worked by 4603 + 4604 (again both No.2 end leading for the same
> reason
> >> as mentioned above).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mark.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Martin <semartin@idx.com.au>
> >> To: Ausloco@listbot.com <Ausloco@listbot.com>
> >> Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:10
> >> Subject: Inaugural IP locos
> >>
> >>
> >> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
> >> >
> >> >Can anyone assist me with a query on the loco's on the inaugural IP
> >> >30-odd years ago. I know 2 x 46 class did Sydney - Lithgow, but don't
> >> >know which ones. I know 2 x 421's did Lithgow - B.H., being 42106 and
> one
> >> >unidentified classmate. From there 604/603 took over the B.H. Pt
Augusta
> >> >leg, then CL1 to Kalgoorlie , then L260 and another L into Perth. I am
> >> >keen to fill the gap in my knowledge of this momentous train journey.
> >> >
> >> >Scott
> >> >
> >> >Early to rise, Early to bed,
> >> >Makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead
> >> >
> >> >
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