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RE: Cobar ore train

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Yes there are two distinct trains. The one to Parkes and onto South
Australia is carried in green open wagons that have been fitted with white
lids. The one that goes to Newcastle and then onto to Tasmania by sea is
carried in containers. This second train is the one that Silverton has
apparently taken over. It is interesting if Silverton crews are manning it
all the way through to Newcastle or are they only going to Dubbo?
I have not seen any of the triple headers in Narromine yet. NR 60 and 99
were in town again over the weekend.

Wayne Coleman
Lucerne/Canola Production Agronomist
colemanw@phibred.com <mailto:colemanw@phibred.com> 



-----Original Message-----
From: Don Allitt [mailto:nahgfa@zeta.org.au]
Sent: Friday, 14 January 2000 19:29
To: Aus loco discussion mailing list
Subject: Re: Cobar ore train


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Evening all,Wayne, are there not two distint trains the one to Parkes and on
to South Aust, and the other to Newcastle. I thought that Silverton took
over the second Freightcorp run on 1/1/2000.
Don.

Coleman, Wayne wrote:

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> I have a feeling that previously it was discussed that the train was
> operated by NR and the Narromine to Cobar section is sub leased to
> Silverton. When the operations originally commenced the train was actually
> run from Parkes to Cobar with 48's all the way but this has since changed!
>
> Wayne Coleman
> Lucerne/Canola Production Agronomist
> colemanw@phibred.com <mailto:colemanw@phibred.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bevanwall@ozemail.com.au [mailto:bevanwall@ozemail.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, 14 January 2000 10:37
> To: Aus loco discussion mailing list
> Subject: Re: Cobar ore train
>
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> >From my observation it seems that this particular ore train is a
> combined NR/Silverton operation. The train of empties from Newcastle
> (2NE1) arrived at Narromine on Monday night behind the two NRs.  From
> there the four Silverton 48s worked the train out to Cobar (going
> through Nygan around 08.00 Tuesday morning), arriving back at
> Narromine around 11.00 on Wednesday. Late Monday afternoon two of the
> Siverton 48s were shutdown in Narromine yard so the other two must
> have run out LE from Parkes early on Monday evening. The two NRs were
> left shut down in Narromine yard (where there is no fencing or
> lighting) from Monday night to Wednesday morning (a waste of expensive
> motive power?). It occurred to me at the time that if that was done in
> Sydney they would be absolutely covered in graffiti!
> I can't be sure, but I think the crews driving the NRs are Silverton
> crews or NR crews on loan to Siverton (on Tuesday evening I phoned the
> Silverton office in Parkes to discuss the videoing of Wednesday's run
> back to Newcastle and the person I spoke to was the driver of the NRs)
> - perhaps someone can explain the crewing arrangement.
> Depending on the time of day the train runs it is an extremely
> photogenic operation - the quad Silverton 48s crossing the Bogan River
> at Nygan in early morning sun (beware of the mossies - I got eaten
> alive by the biggest ones I've ever seen!) and the two NRs in
> different liveries rounding the huge curve in to Merrygoen in late
> afternoon sun are just two examples of the many photo opportunities
> available. I also recorded some great scenes of the train passing the
> recent derailment sight near Nygan - the wreckage from this is strewn
> all around the side of the line because the ground is still to boggy
> to allow recovery of the wagons and bogies.
> Bevan Wall
> ps. Derek, Ross took some excellent photos - I will post a selection
> to you next week.
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:14:09 +1100, you wrote:
>
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> >Evening Bevan.It was my understanding that Silverton was to run all the
way
> to Newcastle with 3EN2 if thats from Cobar as the NR's would not run to
> Cobar.When at Dubbo i photoed 442's and48's doing a driver learn the road
> trip to Gulgong.
> >Don.
> >
> >Bevan Wall wrote:
> >
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> >> G'day all.
> >> I'm recovering from a very hectic four day mission out to Dubbo to
> >> record material for future volumes of "Diesel Diary".
> >> Trains, locos and location(s) recorded are as follows:
> >> Sunday 9/01.
> >> 8166; 4701; Bathurst to Lyndhurst. (the first train to run on the
> >> Blayney-Cowra line since it was reopened last month)
> >> Monday 10/01.
> >> 4853 empty ore to Blayney; 8176+4894+48117; Wallerawang.
> >> WL2; NR109; Bowenfels; (blue out-of-gauge carriage attached0
> >> 1XS2; NR?; Wallerawang.
> >> 8162 containers from Blayney; 8113; Locksley.
> >> 9872 flour to Manildra; 8170+8173; Locksley to Tumulla.
> >> 2GS2; NR58+NR16; Murrobo.
> >> 8454 ore from Blayney; 8176+ 48117.
> >> 8136 freight from Dubbo; 8180+48156+8105+48119; dubbo to Guerie.
> >> Tuesday 11/01
> >> 8821 empty grain to Nygan; 48140+48154; Nygan.
> >> 2NE1 empty ore to Cobar; 48s30+48s35+48s31+48s37; Nevertire to
> >> Hermidale.
> >> 8822 grain from Nygan 48154+48140; Nevertire.
> >> 8882 grain from Nevertire; 48162+ 48123; Trangie to Narromine
> >> 8888 grain from Wellington; 8140+48+48; Dubbo.
> >> Wednesday 12/01.
> >> 3EN2 ore from Cobar, NR99+NR60 (order reversed at Merrygoen) Narromine
> >> to Ulan (this train took nearly 12 hours to run between these two
> >> locations)
> >>
> >> Weather was clear and sunny, train controllers and crews extremely
> >> cooperative, and petrol expensive. A great trip with around two hours
> >> of great footage "in the can"
> >> Bevan Wall.
> >>
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