glillic@msn.com.au wrote: > The point of the original postings was that 4401 is at the <REAR> of some > 3801 Limited trains when the load exceeds the power of a 38 class. Unless > the locos are fitted with Locotrol, a diesel control stand in the 38 class > wont be much help. Get some Victorian through wired passenger cars. -- David Johnson trainman@ozemail.com.au http://www.ozemail.com.au/~trainman/