Re: CityRail Ticket Gates (was: St Leonards, NSW)

["Eric Cartman" <erkemail@yahoo.com>]

Hi

There are a shortage of Revenue Protection Officers in CityRail (about 100
for the whole system) at the moment so obviously they can not be everywhere.
Just because there are gates at a station doesn't mean the station should be
(or is) an RPO free zone. There are many offences occurring at gated station
as well as at non gated stations including

no tickets
concession abuse
over riding
jumping over barriers/fences etc

With regards to which stations have gates and which don't, patronage figures
and previous fare evasion rates (real and perceived) are the main basis for
determining which stations get gates. Also, some station layouts are not
conductive to having gates and Pennant Hills in it's current form
(especially the exit on the down platform) is not ideal for having gates.
Now if only they closed that entrance and made everybody leave/enter via the
"main" concourse. (Can you imagine the uproar?).............

Eric
www.webalias.com/erknet
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NOTE BY THE SUBJECT THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT SYDNEY AND NOT MELBOURNE BEFORE
ANYODY STARTS THIS SYDNEY V MEBOURNE THING AGAIN.


Hubert wrote in message <7urj5u$jjq$1@news1.mpx.com.au>...
>Pennant Hills should have got gates when it was upgraded a few years back.
It does
>have quite a large number of people that use that station.
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>Also, would it be more expensive to hire ticket inspectors or to install
ticket
>gates? it's surprising to see ticket inspectors situated at Burwood where
there are
>gates yet there are none at places like Eastwood.
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>Eric Cartman <erk_cartman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>ptjP3.196$et1.6671@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net">news:ptjP3.196$et1.6671@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net...
>Hi
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>As I wrote previously, I think you will find that Ashfield will get gates.
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>Eric
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>Hubert wrote in message <7ukad6$2j2$1@news1.mpx.com.au>...
>Another thing I'm a little baffled about...the patronage at Ashfield may as
>well be higher than Burwood, but it has been "left out" of the list of
>stations to be installed with such gates. I was actually quite surprised to
>see no gates at Ashfield's new concourse when I went there last
>Saturday--I'd think that since the place is "brand new" it'd have some
>measure to stop fare evaders from getting another free ride.
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>Eric Cartman <erk_cartman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1BXO3.83$ke1.1315@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net...
>Hi
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>I remember when Olympic Park opened, the plan was to have ticket gates
>across the entire exit. When the station opened, there were no gates
>installed. The gates that were due to be installed were temporarily placed
>at the entrance to the Showground for the 1998 Easter Show. After the show,
>some gates were sent to Woy Woy and Gosford for installation there with
some
>gates installed eventually at Olympic Park closest to the booking office.
>With regards to the auto gates at St Leonards, it is possible that the
gates
>are behind schedule due to this.
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>Also, some stations that had auto gates fitted after station upgrading were
>not fitted straight away. Campbelltown and Westmead are two examples of
>this. At the time of my last visit to Ashfield a month or so ago, no gates
>were installed on the new concourse there but the tell tale metal plate on
>the ground is there. It may have something to do with passengers getting
>used to the new layout of the stations or something related to the
>construction process.
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>Eric
>www.webalias.com/erknet
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>Bill Bolton wrote in message ...
>>davec@ozemail.com.au (David Cowans) wrote:
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>>> Anyone know when the new station is due to open?
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>>I saw the SM on the platform at St Leonards today and asked him about
>>the new stations opening.  He said it was most likely to open at the
>>end of February according to present plans.  He also said that it will
>>open without automatic barrier gates as apparently there was some sort
>>of ordering stuff up with the gates.  He thought there might be a
>>"soft" opening, followed by an official opening when the gates are
>>installed.
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>>Some announcement notices should go up before the end of the year.
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>>He also said something which probably answers a question from several
>>weeks ago about why the tracks had been reballasted through the new
>>station area.  Apparently the new platforms are on a slightly
>>different alignment to the previous platforms and the tracks had to be
>>slewed slightly to align to the new platforms.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Bill
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