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Re: Chubb Security




Peter Perkins <peterp@tig.com.au> wrote in message
7nceg3$e79$1@toto.tig.com.au">news:7nceg3$e79$1@toto.tig.com.au...
> Why has the RTBU left the decision to take trains with securtity guards on
> them before 7PM up to individual guards? Why was there no organised
campaign
> to stop this rot?

Because individual Guards work individual trains therefore it is up to
individual Guards. The Union has instructed Guards not to move trains.


> It makes no sense to have guards patrolling trains in the afternoon peak,
> passengers are already standing in the isles. Maybe this is the reason
rail
> fares are to rise by 14%.(ie paying the wages of Security Guards).

You could be right!


> Chubb has been used in many strike breaking execises before today (ie
> Wharfies.) If this new precedented move to have security guards patrolling
> trains after 2pm continues then the role of train guards is deminished and
> it won't be long before they will come under attack as station staff are
> experiencing.
> Tell your union representatives that they have to do more to stop Security
> Guards. Problem is nobody is willing to citicise the State Labor Party and
> Bob Carr.

You could well be right again!


>
>                                 Peter Perkins
>      for RTBU Rank and File - Putting "U" back into Unity.
>
> John <beverly@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> 7n902k$ino$1@news1.mpx.com.au">news:7n902k$ino$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
> > I heard on the radio today that the union is against Chubb Security
> patrols
> > before 7.00pm. They say that the positions that are redundent should be
> > retrained for these jobs.
> >
> > The SRA claim this is not possible because it could take 1 year to
train.
> >
> > Fact 1. The security coarse that the Chubb guards and any guard for that
> > matter take is for 8 days. This then entitles the person to have a
> Security
> > licence.
> >
> > Fact 2. Most of the guards that Chubb employ are students mainly from
> India
> > and Pakistan. They arrive in the country do their security training and
> then
> > apply to Chubb to get a job.
> >
> > Fact 3. The reason why most guards are not Australian is because of the
> low
> > pay and hours. The pay rate is 11.33 per hour (it should have gone upto
> > 11.69 ) and after 5.30pm 21.7 % loading. Most of the time you get a
shift
> of
> > only 4 hours or less, with 4 hour's pay.
> >
> > Fact 4. Most of the trouble on the trains does not stop when these
guards
> > come through the train. A lot of the Guards do not know the law in
> relation
> > to railway offences.
> >
> > Fact 5. Most of the Guards are to busy sitting in the back of the train
to
> > see what is going on. And some are sitting down just reading the paper.
> >
> > Fact 6. There has never been 1 night that there has been Chubb guards on
> > every single train. If the SRA guards reported more often about this
> problem
> > the quicker they might decide to finally get rid of these toothless
> tigers.
> >
> >
> >
>
>