Re: "lost" trains

[RNS <steam3801@hotmail.com>]

A few months after the Cowan Bank accident block working was
introduced on the down between Cowan and Hawkesbury River before NL35
was allowed to proceed because, according to the Cowan signalperson
"the signals are flashing red and green" !!!!







On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:17:49 +1100, Roy the Boy
<roy@the.coal.face.net> wrote:

>Any body who believes for one moment that sand was responsible for the accident
>between 3801 and the intercity is either a fool or an SRA lackey. It should be
>remembered, that during the investigation it was revealed that there had been
>over fifty signal irregularities reported in that area. And yet the SRA
>persisted in trying to blame the driver of the intercity until the problem of
>the other person in the cab arose. When he confirmed that the intercity did have
>a green light, the SRA then came up with the sand idea. If that theory had been
>shot down, they then would have come up with a new idea. The SRA was not going
>to take the blame under any circumstances
>
>nobody wrote:
>
>> Okay so sand has insulated 110 ton locos, but were they pulling a train?
>> 3801 is 201 tons and was pulling a train of about 300 tons (i think!). I
>> find it hard to believe an entire train could be insulated from the signal
>> by sand- you would expect it to be crushed to an insignificant size or fall
>> off the rails after the first few cars.
>> The legal liabilities to state rail would be similar to those that they
>> faced when the coroner found the wheels to be at fault in the Granville
>> disaster. State Rail had to keep quiet about its problems because it had not
>> enough money to fix them.
>>
>> Brendan
>>
>> "David Johnson" <trainman@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> 38621202.B85D5466@ozemail.com.au">news:38621202.B85D5466@ozemail.com.au...
>> > Roy the Boy wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sand on the rail had absolutely nothing to do with the accident between
>> 3801
>> > > and an intercity. A 200 tonne loco does NOT  loose contact with the
>> rails.
>> > > The findings of the investigation were a white wash. Any admission of
>> signal
>> > > problems would have opened the SRA to huge legal liabilities.
>> >
>> > You do not know what you are talking about.  Sand has been proven to
>> insulate
>> > trains from the track circuits, including 110 tonne locomotives.  Yes,
>> sand was
>> > the reason that 3801 was isolated from the track circuits.
>> >
>> > --
>> > David Johnson
>> > trainman@ozemail.com.au
>> > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~trainman/
>> >
>> >
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