Re: Lilydale (and Macleod)

[David Langley <del@ancc.com.au>]

Notagunzel wrote:

> The Annett Keys are usually kept in an electric cross lock, to release them
> from the XL the relevent lever on the panel must be reversed. Once
> released, the Key can be removed from the XL, and in the case of the manual
> boom barrier, (from memory only) the key is inserted in an exchange
> apparatus adjacent to the barrier.  When in the exchange apparatus, the 1st
> key releases a 2nd key attached to the boom barrier by chain, thus
> releasing the boom barrier.  If im wrong, please correct me(I'm refering to
> you, DEL).  The key released by 206 lever then can release the Quadrant??
> Lever to operate the Up Home.

So far so good.

> Releasing Annett Keys electrically from the panel for lesser turnouts is
> also used in the country in a few places, Seymour, Moe, Bendigo, etc...
>
> > If the signals between Lilydale and mooroolbark failed would they use the
> pilot
> > staff or write an ATC caution order?
>
> I think when a failure occurred, Caution Orders were used until the pilot
> staff working could be introduced.  Pilot Staffs effectively ceased to
> exist with the 1994 Rules methinks.  Certainly the Pilot Staffs for some of
> the underground loops have been abolished recently.

I think that pilot staffs (note Mr. Notagunzel - staffs) fell out of favour
because of the need to have someone visit both ends of a single line section
and obtain them, then find the train and start emergency proceedings. Always
simplier to just issue an order to proceed and put on a blocking jack to
prevent a second/opposing train from entering. This is what happened on the sg
from at least 1972 (when I went to Seymour) and I suspect happened at most
other places even though pilot staffs were provided. And that is why they are
being pulled out, lack of use.

> Perhaps someone else
> could comment further on Pilot Staffs. [Staves? :o)]

Take 100 lines Mr. Notagunzel - staves are in Queensland, staffs are in
Victoria.

>
> Re Cave Hill:
>
> ATC replaced Electric Staff between Mooroolbark and Lilydale on 29/6/85.
> Under ES Cave Hill siding was staff locked, and became switch locked under
> the ATC.  During the period between the commissioning of the Panel at
> Lilydale and the commissioning of the ATC signals H1171 was a 3 Position
> repeater.

What do you mean. During its time as a repeater I would suggest that the red
aspect might not have been sighted but perhaps personal observation might prove
otherwise. AFAIK the western CTC when being installed also had repeaters that
later became three position permissive signals (I don't like the Victorianism
of calling them autos because even absolute signals have a certain automatic
function about them) and I think that they would not have shown a red aspect
whilst in this transitory stage.

DEL.