Re: Vic Tangaras

[Eben Levy <tkid@ozemail.com.au>]

Christine Sweetnam wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:07:47 GMT, pcc@ocean.com.au (Les Brown) wrote:
>
> >"David & Jan Winter" <winterd@nospam-icenet.com.au> wrote in aus.rail:
> >
> >>I also have never been privy to the outcome of the 4DD project - save that
> >>no new stock has been ordered, yet (only some Bluebirds, I hear - maybe
> >>Melbourne is to get some U-boats to go with them, similar vintage, stainless
> >>steel finish, etc?). What is the official conclusion. Yours is clear from
> >>the colour of said elephant!
> >>
> >Unable to measure said elephant and its northern relatives for
> >comparison. Suggest possible vetrinary assistance.
> >
> >Les Brown
>
> First off the correct name for the thing is "4D", "Block of Flats",
> "S**t Box" but never "Tangara" or "Vic Tangara"!
>
> Specs are
>
> Maximum design speed 130Kph
> Maximum acceleration 0.75m/sec/sec (Level track)
> Maximum service deceleration 0.9m/sec/sec
> Emergency braking 1.0m/sec/sec (On dry level track)
>
> Length coupled 4 cars 77,840mm
> Width overall 2,890mm
> Hight 4,270mm
>
> Weight:
>
> CTC
> Tare 44.65tonne
> Gross 58tonne
>
> MC
> Tare 52.6tonne
> Gross 68tonne
>
> 4 Cars
> Tare 194.5tonne
> Gross 252tonne
>
> Passenger capacity:
>
> Seated
> CTC 85
> MC 99
>
> Standing
> CTC 149
> MC 165
>
> Total 4 Cars 996
>
> Known Differences:
> Pantographs and hand brakes are not controlled by TMS system.
>
> Step one of E.P. Brake system removed (Compatibility issue with
> Comeng).
>
> Air brake release rates alted to Comeng specs.
>
> Drivers Cup holder added.
>
> Acceleration rate de tuned to about 0.5m/sec/sec (Now about
> 0.3m/sec/sec) Is very sick train now.
>
> No 415V 3 phase connection through coupler (Comeng again).
>
> Drivers console differed from original design, Now butchered for
> Driver only operation.
>
> All Guards door stations through out the train have been disabled.
> (Not required for driver only operation).
>
> Inboard disk brakes on CTC cars.

This is the same with our D cars. the disc brakes are attached to the axle on the
inside side of the wheel. the N cars (e.g. motor cars) have them on each side of
the wheel.

>
>
> No flip over seating in salon.
>
> No gradual reduction in traction power when shutting off when train
> speed is above 40Kph. Driver must return the throttle to the off
> position before any reduction in tractive effort will take place.
>
> There are probable many more but I think I got the main ones.
>
> Christine.



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Eben

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