Re: Unions don't know what's good for them

Rodney T. Young (berlina@bigpond.com)
26 Jul 97 16:21:50 GMT

Peter Parker <parkerp@pcug.org.au> wrote in article
<33d3c898.0@cheese.pcug.org.au>...
> Rod Young <berlina@dragnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> (lots of ranting snipped)
>
> >when they realize how they destroyed our Profession
>
> The quickest way to destroy your profession is to go on strike and
> disrupts service to the travelling public. After each strike, fewer and
> fewer people will use public transport, and you will be in a dangerous
> spiral of falling patronage, ballooning losses, line closures, pressures
> to privatise and even more mass sackings.
>
> What you phillistines down there don't realise (and I'm a union member
> too) is that public transport works only if people have faith and trust
> that services are reliable and on time. Once people lose that faith
> (through ill-conceived actions from people such as yourself) you're left
> with nothing - and you've a very big battle to convince people who have a

> choice back to using the train.
>
> Some people will never ever return to public transport and you've lost
> them for life when they have a bad experience. Luddites like you don't
> seem to realise that the key to job security is a reliable service that
> causes a lot of full-fare paying discretionary travellers (ie those with
> access to a vehicle) to opt for the train rather than the car. And the
> more patronage grows, the stronger the case is for maintaining or
> improving services. And, in something like public transport, even the
> mere threat of a strike is enough to do a lot of damage.
>
> The experience we've had in Canberra over the last two years is
> instructive. We had a series of full day strikes and many times when
> only some services (no one was told which ones) would operate. Then there

> were hardly publicised stoppages during the middle of the day. These
> actions of the militant TWU caused a big drop in bus patronage that has
> never recovered, despite the comparative industrial peace over the last
> six months.
>
> Peter
I decided not to snip your own ranting ,Peter ,to give you the opportunity
to read what you wrote, before you put your so called brain in motion!

Lets put things in such a way that even you could understand.... Now pay
attention.....Come on look at the screen....thats a good boy.

Now as an example. Lets pretend that you own a 1997 Ford Fairmont Ghia, and
the market value is $40,000 dollars.
Now Felicity Kennett comes along and offers you $20,000 Dollars for it,
hops in and tries to drive it away.
Do you ...accept the offer? Do you refuse and haul her out of the car,
tell her to piss off! or do you sit on your hands and do nothing?

I dont have a Ghia to sell, but I do have some worth, and that is I am a
well trained and responsible Locomotive Engineer, with a lot of study and
hard work invested in my Job.
Up untill recently I have had only one place I can work at my skills, and
that is the PTC.

We have been negotiating the fair price for those skills, for eight years,
and apart from falling into Kennetts trap on Grand Prix weekend , have had
no strikes at all. In fact greedy halfwits like you travelled on those
dirty filthy things everyday and never even noticed.[ and of course you
gets what you deserve]
Several weeks before that strike the Unions accepted a lousy deal, in the
best interests of the Public, giving away much to much for a lousy payrise,
but much improved Superanuation Conditions and Packages for the many
hundreds of workers to be laid off by Privatisation. Cooper took the
signed deal to Stockdale, who returned it to him in shreds saying "this is
not Liberal Policy"

Teachers, Police and outher Public servants all recieved 6-10% rises with
no tradeoffs.....none at all!
Cooper "they refused the same offer the Teachers have just accepted"
Mr Cooper doesnt tell lies!

Well Peter you let Felicity take your Ghia!

We are going to fight you and win. Because you are one of the clowns that
own the Government, and if you keep telling us to go to buggery via your
mouthpiece Herr Kennett , then I will sit back grinning every day I think
of you and your sort sitting in the big carpark for hours on end steaming
away, getting hot under the collar....

Of course Liberal's have always Union Bashed! 90% of the population are
just workers, and even if they dont belong to a union,
they owe the level of their wages and the type of conditions they maintain
to a UNION. A clerk would leave his $15000 pa job and work as a $560000 pa
Garbologist, if the bosses weren't forced to raise his wages to compete.
The UNION is the people.... think about it... Everytime a Politician bashes
the UNION he is really people bashing....

This Government, that is voted in by the people really represents the ones
who can afford to pay the price.. . The Packers and the Murdochs and the
Multi Nationals and even BHP, but not you and me.

Remember me, when soon, your Boss comes up to you in your nice clean Air
Con Office, and tells you that to save money, he has sacked the Cleaner,
and for the pleasure of working for him, he is going to allow you to clean
his office for him as well as the toilets, as well as maintain your outher
duties, which are already too much for you, because you are doing the work
of the six outher people that have been sacked recently, but never
replaced...
For all our sakes, Peter and anyone else out there that thinks
this way. GET A LIFE ! think about someone elses problems before you
attack, and stregthen the filthy rich ,RiGHT better known as the Liberal
Party.
And just to finish, i dont want anyone to suffer. I love all the
little old ladies I meet every day. I put up with most of the School kids
and their pranks, they will grow up one day. I get a kick out of getting an
ailing Locomotive into spencer St on time, and am pissed off when I am
late. i dont run off as sooon as I arrive, I talk to people, and thank God,
most are not as intollerant as you.
well 24 hour strike on Tuesday. You fellas make up your minds. I
deserve better[and so does the Public] Are you going to let this
Government close your trains down..... ah well its your problem.
I have taken enough space in this group, The OWNER will have a stroke, why
dont you answer privately if you really think I got it wrong
CYA all
ROD