Re: Graffiti vandals go online

["Rail Roamer" <leadscout@one.net.au>]

Yeah well we have the scratched windows here too....only thing is after a
few weeks of scrathing their damn tags on the windows sone other shit comes
through and kicks the damn things out.

"Byron Creek" <byroncreek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Already sent off my complaint, let's hope many more do. I actually
> complained to the previous host of this site and it was pulled soon after.
>
> Our graffiti problem down here in Sydney is far worse than Brisbane, but
> when I was last in Bris, I did notice those badly scratched windows. This
> doesn't happen as much in Sydney, the vandals are too busy spraying
> everything and throwing the seats out the door!!
>
> Byron Creek
>
> "Colin Weaver" <colingw@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> > "Daniel Bowen" <dbowen@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message
> news:<hprO6.69968$ff.535685@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > > "jamie baxter" <melbwriters@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > c5f9ea69.0105210505.6b0fe28b@posting.google.com">news:c5f9ea69.0105210505.6b0fe28b@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Daniel Bowen" <dbowen@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message
> > >  news:<a1QH6.29503$ff.216734@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > > > > Maybe we can get the Vic Police to investigate
> > > > > http://melbournewriters.cjb.net/
> > > >
> > > > I run the site, why would they investigate? What's to investigate?
> > > > Incase you forget, the government tried to shut down some graffiti
> > > > sites, but failed.  My site shows a pictorial documentation of
> > > > graffiti, I don't encourage or condone illegal activity.
> > >
> > > I don't doubt that legally, the government is in a very weak position
> over
> > > this.
> > >
> > > > Promoting graffiti is illegal, but simply showing pictures of trains
> > > > with graffiti isn't illegal.
> > >
> > > "If you wish to have any of your work put online simply send in a good
> clear
> > > photo."
> > > -- sounds like promotion of graffiti to me. If it's not promotion,
what
> is
> > > it?
> > >
> > > While this style of painting is undoubtedly a form of art, I would
argue
> > > that the placement of it on other people's property, with its
consequent
> > > effect on the running of the transport system, pretty much forfeits
its
> > > status as "art".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel
> >
> > I suggest that as many of us as possible complain to abuse@cjb.net.
> > Be very clear that the site promotes illegal activity, vandalism of
> > public property, and dangerous activity (namely riding on the outside
> > of trains).
> >
> > The cjb.net terms of service at http://www.cjb.net/policies.html are
> > interesting, in that they state that they do not allow:
> >
> > "material that promotes, encourages, or provides instructional
> > information about illegal activities;"
> >
> > and that:
> >
> > "CJB.NET may only be used for lawful purposes. Any use of these
> > services which violates any local, state, federal, or international
> > laws which may apply to CJB.NET, your local jurisdiction, or any
> > jurisdiction that you or your site may be subject to is strictly
> > prohibited."
> >
> > Note: "international laws".
> >
> > Finally, if a site is withdrawn due to a violation of these rules, a
> > charge in US$ may be payable.
> >
> > Lets hit these turkeys where they'll hurt.  The more complaints, the
> > better.
> >
> > If you disagree with me so be it - any flames will be ignored :-)  I
> > for one am sick to death of vandalism of our trains, and I'm sure the
> > problem down south is far worse than it is here in Brisbane (apart
> > from the darn scratched windows).
> >
> > --Colin
>
>