Re: Guard & Drivers Working Together.

["Tezza" <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au>]

"Karina Vor-daniken" <vorgestern@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Seeing as how you've snipped the whole damn post, I'll just have to guess
that you're replying to me.

| So what your saying is that the air-conditioning in the drivers cab is
| almost worthless if the guard operated from the front of the train.

I was stating the obvious. You don't leave your doors or windows open at
home with the air-con on.

| What's the efficiency of the air-conditioning for the guard normally.

Ask a guard.

| So what your implying is stuff the guard, I'm OK up front.

You infer incorrectly.


| Poor old guard, longer shifts, poorer conditions, less pay I dare say.

What are their poorer conditions? They usually make more than Drivers.


| What about the crap seat the guard has to sit.

The Driver's seat?


| Again, stuff him, my arse is quiet comfortable thank you.

Where do you get this crap from?


| Is not the poor old guard the sap that has to get up and down every
| few minutes, while the drivers simply sits on his arse.

No, he's the one who gets to sit and read most of the shift while the Driver
hauls him around.


| The guard standing in the door way when it's pouring rain.

That's part of his job, if he doesn't like it he can change.


| Don't worry, the driver is still dry and comfortable.

So what if we were? BTW, the Driver's cab usually gets wetter than the
guard's. Plus we get water dripping on us and on the dash.


| [and getting paid more with shorter shifts I'm told]

A guard works longer shifts cause they're greedy and didn't trade them off.
With the longer shifts and more overtime they quite often earn more than
Drivers.


| A drivers no doubt carries greater prestige.
| Many would happily tell people they are a driver. What's the guard
| tell people, I'm the bloke that opens & closes the doors from the
| caboose.  From memory, the guards seat does not even face the
| direction of travel.

The same seat that Driver Trainers use. BTW, most guards use the Driver's
seat.


| I have seen drivers wearing jeans, running shoes and comfortable shirts.

That would be, because Drivers, unlike guards were not issued with a
uniform. (until May 2000).


| I have failed to see a guard turning up for duty looking like that.

That would be because they were issued with a uniform.


| Listen, from what I have observed the drivers appear to have it quiet
| good. [nothing has changed since my old friend worked as a guard back
| in the 80's]  I said in the above post that drivers and guards cannot
| really work together.

Only about as well as the guard and the station assistant or the guard and
the station master could work together.



| You have only reinforced my opinion:
| Quote,  "Personally I don't like the guards up the front as they have
| to keep opening the doors, which negates any heating/air-conditioning
| which may be in use".

Nothing anyone says is going to change it, your little rant proves that.

| Not wonder the system is totally screwed.


The system is screwed because a Driver likes to work in the same comfort as
most other workers? Or because or your observations 20 years ago? Get a
grip.